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BONO
12-13-2004, 09:26 AM
I don't think so, b/c priesthood is not a job. *Rather it's a life long commitment. *Once you become a priest, you are married to the church and the people who attend your church are your kids. *:!:

Stephie_B
12-13-2004, 10:26 AM
i think a priests' only committment should be the church - how does a wife compare to God...she will always be 2nd place and if she isnt 2nd place - that husband should not be a priest.

OLIVIA
12-13-2004, 10:32 AM
Didn't we already have this topic?? :think:

I dont think they should be married. :no no:

BONO
12-13-2004, 10:48 AM
Didn't we already have this topic?? :think:

I dont think they should be married. :no no:


Gee I'm sorry if this topic was already posted. *Next time I'll check all 72 pages of posts b 4 posting my next topic * *:bang:

SamIAM™
12-13-2004, 10:49 AM
I think he should be able to be married, but not have kids :think:

BONO
12-13-2004, 10:51 AM
I think he should be able to be married, but not have kids :think:

So u're basically saying that priests should get married for sexual purposes only? *:roll: *:think:

OLIVIA
12-13-2004, 10:55 AM
Didn't we already have this topic?? :think:

I dont think they should be married. :no no:


Gee I'm sorry if this topic was already posted. *Next time I'll check all 72 pages of posts b 4 posting my next topic * *:bang:

Thanks! *:alright:

SamIAM™
12-13-2004, 10:56 AM
I think he should be able to be married, but not have kids :think:

So u're basically saying that priests should get married for sexual purposes only? *:roll: *:think:

noooooo the reason i said no kids, means NO SEX. Just to have a companion.

Stephie_B
12-13-2004, 11:41 AM
u can have a companian without being married- if ur not married u can have many companians

renee
12-13-2004, 11:52 AM
As we have learned with all the scandals in the RC church, priests have sex anyway.

I say they should be allowed to be married, have sex, kids, etc. Aren't they allowed to be married in Iraq? By not allowing priests to marry we are encouraging homosexuals to enter the priesthood.

If we had married priests 1) there would be more priests; 2) priests would be more willing to police themselves and there would be fewer sexual deviants (because the married priests would have kids, etc. and they would understand the parents of kids who have been molested by priests.)

BONO
12-13-2004, 11:58 AM
if u r a priest, and your 5 year old son get diagnosed with cancer and needs full attention from both parents, how will the preist be able to handle both his kids and the priest?


That's why I say that *priesthood is a life time commitment (marriage) to the church and not a full time job (40Hrs)

renee
12-13-2004, 02:15 PM
if u r a priest, and your 5 year old son get diagnosed with cancer and needs full attention from both parents, how will the preist be able to handle both his kids and the priest?


That's why I say that *priesthood is a life time commitment (marriage) to the church and not a full time job (40Hrs)

If you're a priest and YOU are diagnosed with cancer that needs full time treatment, how can u handle both your own treatment and being a priest?

The answer to both is easy, you take a leave of absence. Thousands of protestant ministers are married with families. They are arguably as holy and dedicated as catholic priests. They seem to be able to handle it.

SamIAM™
12-13-2004, 02:20 PM
What if his son comes out of the closet :think:

Emily
12-13-2004, 03:06 PM
priests should be married having children is a gift from God and what can be more wonderful than having a commitment with God your wife and having beautiful children

BONO
12-13-2004, 07:34 PM
if u r a priest, and your 5 year old son get diagnosed with cancer and needs full attention from both parents, how will the preist be able to handle both his kids and the priest?


That's why I say that *priesthood is a life time commitment (marriage) to the church and not a full time job (40Hrs)

If you're a priest and YOU are diagnosed with cancer that needs full time treatment, how can u handle both your own treatment and being a priest?

The answer to both is easy, you take a leave of absence. Thousands of protestant ministers are married with families. They are arguably as holy and dedicated as catholic priests. They seem to be able to handle it.

the above scenario that u have mentioned is not a unique one. *There are a lot of volunteers out there that cook clean and take care of the priests and their homes.

Armenian
12-13-2004, 07:41 PM
No, if someone wants to get married or have a sexlife, they should not consider being a priest... *No sense breaking the tradition just for a few horny or lonely priests. If nuns have to devote whole body and their lives to God and be celibate, so should priests.. My opinion, I don't make the rules and traditions.

Either that or they should chose another branch of Christianity where they are allowed to be married yet hold a high position in the church.

Armenian
12-13-2004, 07:49 PM
I say they should be allowed to be married, have sex, kids, etc. By not allowing priests to marry we are encouraging homosexuals to enter the priesthood.

well its simple though... They should not be a priest... I admit, I would not be cut out to be a priest. *I love women too much. *There is many who were priests for years, but when they realized they wanted to get married and have a family, they stepped down from their priesthood. *However, I think the church should be tolerant enough to accept that rather than banish them for it. *But thats not up to me.

Teffo
12-13-2004, 07:53 PM
Well, a Catholic priest is not supposed to get married. *A Roman Catholic priest is not allowed to, but in Iraq, Chaldean Catholic priests actually can get married since we have our own rite. *And you have to remember that they're other secs of Christianity who do not follow the regulations as the Catholic Church. *So, I'm thinking you should specify your question in detail. *

But...if you're referring to Catholic priests, than yes, if they want to i don't see why not, but the majority of priests don't have time to hold down the church and a family.

renee
12-14-2004, 09:04 AM
But...if you're referring to Catholic priests, than yes, if they want to i don't see why not, but the majority of priests don't have time to hold down the church and a family.

But if the RC Church (or Chaldean Church in the US) allowed priests to marry there would be more priests (at least 3 of my cousins would have become priests IF they were allowed to get married) and they would all have more time. It's simple economics. Greater Supply means less time they would need to spend priesting.

Teffo
12-14-2004, 09:32 AM
I agree with you. *That's exactly why in 100 years of Chaldeans migrating to the U.S. only ONE Chaldean male has become a priest. *God bless Father Andy!

an
12-14-2004, 09:50 AM
OK now wait just a minute!!!

its allowed overseas in Iraq and not allowed here now? *Whats wrong with you people.....Iraq the most strict of traditions are held over there concerning marriage wether family related *or not; *now here where nothing is not frowned upon anymore its taboo for a priest to get married? *And in those times in Iraq everything was taboo!!!! *You would think nothing would have changed.

Which sect of the assyrians are their priests allowed to get married? *They are form Iraq as well and as i recall our chruchs became united!!!!!

Also there are other religions that allow there ministers to get married and they advise their people much better at family issues. *What does a non married priest who has probably never ever been in a realtionship know about helping a couple finding common grounds or even mending a family on the brinks of breakup?

I love my catholic faith and resepct it but i think that our priests don't really listen and always want to prove a point no matter what your opinion is. *Im only stating by what i have heard from fellow friends.

Teffo
12-14-2004, 09:57 AM
An-
Iraq is strict because of Muslim Law. *97% (I believe) of Iraq's population is Muslim not Christian. *They have no rights over our law and we did not follow the Roman Catholic Church in Iraq. *Also, it's true that Chaldean Catholic priests were allowed to be married in Iraq, but not here because we follow the Pope here in the U.S.

This isn't me assuming here, this is me reading an article written by Father Andy's sister about him after his ordination. *And I have also discussed this with Bishop Sarhad and Father Andy himself.

renee
12-14-2004, 11:06 AM
An-
Iraq is strict because of Muslim Law. *97% (I believe) of Iraq's population is Muslim not Christian. *They have no rights over our law and we did not follow the Roman Catholic Church in Iraq. *Also, it's true that Chaldean Catholic priests were allowed to be married in Iraq, but not here because we follow the Pope here in the U.S.

This isn't me assuming here, this is me reading an article written by Father Andy's sister about him after his ordination. *And I have also discussed this with Bishop Sarhad and Father Andy himself.

The Chaldean Catholic church in Iraq recognizes the authority of the Pope as well. It's allowed for all of the what is called "uniate Eastern Rite churches" but the US RC Bishops thought it would be disruptive so the Chaldean Catholic bishops followed the RC rules.

It's ironic because the Ukrainian Catholic church, the Ruthenian (from Belorussia) Catholic church, the Maronite (from Lebanon) Catholic church, etc. all allow priests to marry. (Actually, you have to be married BEFORE you become a priest. A minor technicality.)

It's a stupid rule developed in the 5th Century to prevent the heirs of priests and bishops from inheriting church property.

Teffo
12-14-2004, 11:12 AM
Renee-
I was told that, that was the same way for Chaldeans. *We did recognize the Pope in Iraq and still do, but we have our own rite and that is why our Bishop turned down the position as a Cardinal.


btw...this is such a great topic :alright:

Zowaa740
12-24-2007, 12:14 PM
No... this is a slippery slope. Then they will become like Eastern orthodox priests where they will live like Snoop Dogg, condone Moslems, and preach what they want, not what the SINHADA intructs them to preach.

Hadeer
12-24-2007, 12:17 PM
Aren't they allowed to be married in Iraq?


No.

If you are not willing to make God your only commitment, then don't become a priest. No one is forcing you.

I'd be a priest if I could get married, but there is a reason why they can't.

DOOM
12-24-2007, 12:18 PM
No.

If you are not willing to make God your only commitment, then don't become a priest. No one is forcing you.

I'd be a priest if I could get married, but there is a reason why they can't.

Actually, they're allowed to get married in our right, but the church doesn't encourage it.

Zowaa740
12-24-2007, 12:21 PM
If I do not find a soulmate, I will seriously become Priest, because I would not want to waste my life.

AssyrianDreamGirl
07-27-2009, 11:11 AM
I don't think so, b/c priesthood is not a job. *Rather it's a life long commitment. *Once you become a priest, you are married to the church and the people who attend your church are your kids. *:!:


A priest is our vision of Jesus on Earth. Jesus never married, he was pure. Therefore, a visionary of Jesus (a priest) must maintain the same standards.

If a priest has sex or marries, then he is just like everyone else. But if he abstains from sex he is not like most. We want to revere someone who is not like us, but better than us.

Get it? Got it? GOOD!!!

Enrico
07-27-2009, 02:49 PM
Yes they should be able to get married and have children. They're still human beings and deserve a chance at a normal life.

By the way, priests in our church can get married and have children but it has to be BEFORE they enter the priesthood, so it kind of is a loop hole in the rule.

AssyrianDreamGirl
07-29-2009, 07:19 PM
I think they should get married, that is why you see priest raping kids.


Don't say that....seriously. Those are isolated incidences and the Catholic Archdiocese takes care of those perpetrators by removing them from the church and taking away their title. Not all priests are like that.

I don't like when people generalize all priests to be a certain way.

Assyrian_Dancer
07-30-2009, 11:14 AM
Well, why don't we consult the Bible:

If anyone sets his heart on being a bishop, he desires a noble task.
Now the bishop must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him with proper respect.
(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of God's church?)
He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil.

1 Timothy 3:1-7