Survey: How much do u know about Iraqi history?

[KoolEug1981]

I have made a list of questions about Iraqi history. *The paramount objective of this project is to induce people to do some research about our rich and intricate history. *Towards that end, please post ur answers to the questions on the website. *I would love to hear them. *Thank you

1.) What does the word Mesopotamia mean?
2.) The Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the lands of which present-day countries?
3.) Which ancient people were responsible for creating the first civilization?
4.) Name the two rivers that run through Mesopotamia.
5.) Which language group does Aramaic belong to?
6.) Who was the first king to promulgate laws in order to govern his subjects?
7.) In order to assuage the concerns of his home-sick wife, who was originally from mountainous Media, this king ordered the construction of the once glamorous hanging gardens of Babylon. *Please name this king.
8.) Which Central Asian people conquered and micromanaged Mesopotamia for nearly 500 years?
9.) Which European power created and colonized Iraq in the beginning of the 20th century?
10.) Who overthrew the pro-Western Iraqi monarchy in 1958?

[Corleone]

Wow...you know alot of knowledge about Iraqi history. That's so great. Good for you.

I don't know alot of it.

[Kikhwa]

I have made a list of questions about Iraqi history. *The paramount objective of this project is to induce people to do some research about our rich and intricate history. *Towards that end, please post ur answers to the questions on the website. *I would love to hear them. *Thank you

1.) What does the word Mesopotamia mean? Land between two rivers

2.) The Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the lands of which present-day countries? *Iraq, western Iran, Southeastern Turkey, Eastern Syria

3.) Which ancient people were responsible for creating the first
civilization? Sumerians

4.) Name the two rivers that run through Mesopotamia. *Tigris & Euphrates

5.) Which language group does Aramaic belong to? *Semitic
6.) Who was the first king to promulgate laws in order to govern his subjects? *Hammurabi

7.) In order to assuage the concerns of his home-sick wife, who was originally from mountainous Media, this king ordered the construction of the once glamorous hanging gardens of Babylon. *Please name this king. King Nebuchadnezzar II
8.) Which Central Asian people conquered and micromanaged Mesopotamia for nearly 500 years? Mongols

9.) Which European power created and colonized Iraq in the beginning of the 20th century? *England
10.) Who overthrew the pro-Western Iraqi monarchy in 1958? *The Baath party.

[Teffo]

im so proud of myself i knew all that too kikhwa! *

oh and to add to number one...mesopotamia is derived from the greek language :)

[proudchaldean]

abdel karim Qassim is the answer to who overthrew the english

[KoolEug1981]

I salute those individuals who choose to partake in answering my questions. *Kudous to the one who answered the abdul karim kassem question right...please encourage more people

[KoolEug1981]

answer to # 8 is not mongols

[Teffo]

answer to # 8 is not mongols
what you talkin' bout willis? :think:

[missbaghdad]

give us more questions!!!

[proudchaldean]

im stumped on 8...persians???

[Teffo]

perians invaded, but mongols killed

[ojeen1981]

# 8 is the Ottoman empire, they are the only ones who lasted for 500 years and they are also (originally) from central asia. *Let me know if thats right..peace

[Teffo]

ottoman empire is turks...correct me if im wrong??

[Kikhwa]

I don't know if I'd consider Ottoman's as Central Asians. *At their advent, they were if anything Anatolian. *They later expanded to assimilate Central Asian peoples like Mongols and Persians into their empire.

:|

[Kikhwa]

More questions would be cool. *This is fun.

:mrgreen:

[Anonymous]

So Teffo, how come you never deleted the posts of people who flamed me and personally insulted me on this board. Kikhwa insulted my heritage and personally insulted me by calling me a racist in previous topics. How come you didn't delete her posts?

[Teffo]

omg seriously ur slow...CHECK UR PM...I DELETED IT AND TOLD U 2 OR THREE TIMES TO MAKE ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT WHAT U POSTED IT ABOUT TO CAUSE LESS CONFUSION IN THE THREAD


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHH *SOME PPL!

[UmiSayz]

Question 8 is the mongols. I'm sure of it. Its funny that non of you guys mention one of the best or the best Empire ever came to "Mesopotamia!" Mongolians came and destroyed everything during the golden era. My question to you is ...


What empire was destroyed by Mongolians?

[BONO]

as far as question #5, Aramiac was one of the original languages. *Chaldean, Arabic, and Hebrew came from that language.

[xcrimebossx]

Is the answer to number 3 CHALDEANS? I'm almost 100% positive it is. Please let me know the answer...i'm like confused.

[Rita]

Is the answer to number 3 CHALDEANS? I'm almost 100% positive it is. Please let me know the answer...i'm like confused.

Maybe if u payed attention in my posts u'd realize that is who the Chaldeans are. This was the original name used until they were split. :roll:

[Teffo]

as far as question #5, Aramiac was one of the original languages. *Chaldean, Arabic, and Hebrew came from that language.

no bono you're wrong...arabic is not derived from aramaic it's a sister language

[KoolEug1981]

This is the reason why the Ottoman Turks and not the Mongols is the answer to question #8. *Although both ethnic groups were originally from Central Asia, only the Ottomans overran Mesopotamia for 500 years.

For those individuals doubting the ethnic origins of the Turks, here is why Turks are considered Central Asian.

The modern nation-state of Turkey is an amalgamation of numerous disparate ethnic groups consisting of Turks, Greeks, Laz, Circassians, Syriacs (Assyrians), Armenians, and Kurds. As far as ascertaining the ethnic origins of the Turks, we know that they are from Central Asia because they are descendants of the Seljuk and Ottoman Turks who came from Central Asia to Asia Minor during the 9th -14th centuries. *We also know that the Turks are from Central Asia because the Turkish language is a member of the Altaic family which includes Central Asian languages like Tartar, Uzbek, and Azerbaijani. This means that the Turks are ethnically akin to Azerbaijanis, Tatars, and Uzbeks

For those individuals yearning to learn more about our rich history, I have posted new questions. *I tried my best to make these particular questions more challenging than the previous ones. *I like to thank everyone who participated in this survey. *Thank u very much

1.) Who are the Mandeans?
2.) Which language family does Sumerian belong to?
3.) This entrepreneur discovered oil in Iraq and was later known as “Mr. 5%” because he maintained a share of Iraq’s oil profits. *Please name this individual.
4.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique?
5.) Who are the Jacobites? Please trace their ethnic origins and determine what kind of Christian theology they embrace.
6.) Name the 1st Iraqi monarch, derive his religious and ethnic origins, and explain how he was brought to power?
7.) This treaty was signed between Iraq and Iran in 1975 in order to restore stability and end ethnic strife in both countries. Please name the treaty and list the reasons why it was ratified.
8.) When was the Iraqi oil nationalized?
9.) This military officer was overthrown in 1963 after he toppled the pro-Western monarchy fiver years earlier. *Please name this political figure and explain in detail who and why was he overthrown.
10.) After subduing the Persian Empire, Alexander made this city the capital of his empire. *Please name this city.


Here are the answers to the previous survey

1.) What does the word Mesopotamia mean? Greek for “land between 2 rives”
2.) The Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the lands of which present-day countries? SE Turkey, parts of E. Iran near the Zagros Mts., W. Syria, and Iraq
3.) Which ancient people were responsible for creating the first civilization? The Sumerians
4.) Name the two rivers that run through Mesopotamia. Tigris and Euphrates
5.) Which language group does Aramaic belong to? Semitic
6.) Who was the first king to promulgate laws in order to govern his subjects? Hammurabi
7.) In order to assuage the concerns of his home-sick wife, who was originally from mountainous Media, this king ordered the construction of the once glamorous hanging gardens of Babylon. *Please name this king. Nebuchadnezzar
8.) Which Central Asian people conquered and micromanaged Mesopotamia for nearly 500 years? The Ottoman Turks
9.) Which European power created and colonized Iraq in the beginning of the 20th century? UK or Great Britain
10.) Who overthrew the pro-Western Iraqi monarchy in 1958? General Abdul Karim Kassem

[UmiSayz]

Damn thanks for ignoring my question. Freaks.

4.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique?

Answer to that is a group of ppl found in the north that worships the devil. You spit on the ground you get slapped. They're nice ppl ...they saved my grandmas life once.

[Rita]

as far as question #5, Aramiac was one of the original languages. *Chaldean, Arabic, and Hebrew came from that language.

no bono you're wrong...arabic is not derived from aramaic it's a sister language

Actually, Arabic and Hebrew are a modern version of ours.

[KoolEug1981]

RIta, I earnestly urge u to assess ur knowledge of ancient history. *How can u claim that Arabic and Hebrew are modern versions of Chaldean. *If I try to enumerate how many errors this statement has I would take all day!!! First and foremost, there is no such thing as a chaldean langauge. *Chaldean, as a language, does not exist. *The langauge spoken by Chaldeans today is neo-Syriac. *Chaldeans are linguisticaly akin to Arabs and Hebrew because neo-Syriac, like Hebrew and Arabic, is considered a Semitic language. *Aramiac is the ancient form of Neo-Syriac. *Although Arabic and Hebrew borrowed numerous idioms and characters from Aramiac, they are still considered distinct languages. *Arabs in the Arabian Peninsula were reciting and composing poetry way before the advent of Islam (like the Christian Arab Antar bin Shadaad). Arabs had always had their language. *Arabic is by no means derivative of Aramiac: it merely borrowed certain idioms and characters from Aramiac.

[pfizzles_sister101]

In our school, they have a middle eastern Civics class and they teach all of that stuff but a white guy teaches but he was probably my favorite teacher becus hes so open minded to other cultures rather than just his roots.

[UmiSayz]

Arabic came from the Quarish tribe in Saudi Arabia. It never came from the armaic language as so one claimed to be.

[KoolEug1981]

Quarysh was a tribe in the Arabian peninsula. *Arabic was definately derived not from Quarysh. *We have to keep in mind that in ancient times *the Arabic spoken in the southern Arabian peninuslar (Yemen) was quite distinct from the Arabic spoken by people in Yathrib and Mecca. *thank u very much

[Rita]

will u go back to the ancient times and stay there. Pleaaaaaaaaaaase, I'll pay you. LOL ;)

[KoolEug1981]

Rita,
y don't u at least try to vindicate urself by answering the questions I posted. *I don't ever recall u making an intelligent comment or a profound statement. *R u afraid that by answering the questions incorrectly that certain insecurities might surface? *To others who chose to participate in survey, thank u very much

[UmiSayz]

Rita,
y don't u at least try to vindicate urself by answering the questions I posted. *I don't ever recall u making an intelligent comment or a profound statement. *R u afraid that by answering the questions incorrectly that certain insecurities might surface? *To others who chose to participate in survey, thank u very much

Why dont you answer my question? *:eh:

[KoolEug1981]

what questions r u talking about UMISAYZ

[UmiSayz]

. Its funny that non of you guys mention one of the best or the best Empire ever came to "Mesopotamia!" Mongolians came and destroyed everything during the golden era. My question to you is ...


What empire was destroyed by Mongolians?


^this^

[Rita]

Rita,
y don't u at least try to vindicate urself by answering the questions I posted. *I don't ever recall u making an intelligent comment or a profound statement. *R u afraid that by answering the questions incorrectly that certain insecurities might surface? *To others who chose to participate in survey, thank u very much

Why would I participate in your survey? Why does it mean I'm afraid if I don't? I have not even bothered reading your questions. I do not have time 2 answer and explain to you. BTW, if you already know the answers, y are you asking them?

[KoolEug1981]

Rita, I am not quite sure what type of message ur trying to convey. *However, I leave u with one advise that u should take seriously in order to enhance ur ethos: learn how to construct a coherent sentence. *As far as answering the questions, I don't think u have the intellectual apptitude to understand them. *Needless to say, I urge everyone else to not follow Rita's example and instead try to answer these questions. *Thank you

[Rita]

I choose not to participate in your threads. Others can answer if they like but I simply don't have the time 2 waste on you or your interests.

Thanks & take care!

BTW, before you start criticizing the way I write, you should highly consider learning how 2 spell. :)

[KoolEug1981]

Rita,
Claiming to not have enough time is a tacit way of saying that u don't fathom the concepts discussed in the questions. *After assessing ur comments, one would feel impelled to say that ur not only ignorant, but also arrogant and foolish. *I don't understand how can someone who claims to be well-versed in history make ridiculous and igonrant comments like Arabic + Hebrew are modern versions of our language = Chaldean. *One of my favorite quotes states that the UNEXAMINED LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING. *I think that Rita seriously needs to assess her comments because they were anything by intelligent. *Thank you very much

[KoolEug1981]

Oh sam

Several factors contributed to the fall of the Mongols. *One of them was the rise of Kievan Russian. *The Ottomans also played an important role in debilitating the mighty Mongols. *But it was the Chinese who delivered the coup de grace to the Mongols (I believe that occured during 14th century)

[Samuel]

Rita,
Claiming to not have enough time is a tacit way of saying that u don't fathom the concepts discussed in the questions. *After assessing ur comments, one would feel impelled to say that ur not only ignorant, but also arrogant and foolish. *I don't understand how can someone who claims to be well-versed in history make ridiculous and igonrant comments like Arabic + Hebrew are modern versions of our language = Chaldean. *One of my favorite quotes states that the UNEXAMINED LIFE IS NOT WORTH LIVING. *I think that Rita seriously needs to assess her comments because they were anything by intelligent. *Thank you very much

I presume you feel that this response was witty? *Mommy must have boosted his ego a bit too much, ever since Kamal Jr. came home using words she couldn't understand. *Little did she know that Kamal hadn't the faintest idea how to structure his sentences and make use of his words in the correct context, so to not sound like an awkward-sounding thesaurus whore. *

Kool Kamal, shut the fvck up. *Thank you very much.

[Samuel]

Rita, I am not quite sure what type of message ur trying to convey. *However, I leave u with one advise that u should take seriously in order to enhance ur ethos: learn how to construct a coherent sentence. *As far as answering the questions, I don't think u have the intellectual apptitude to understand them. *<--- admit it. *You like swallowing cum.

Needless to say, I urge everyone else to not (NOT TO, fvckface) follow Rita's example and instead try to answer these questions. *Thank you


Listen, Buddy. *Your ass-fisting fvck-toy already got shooed away. *Follow lead, and walk off a cliff. *

*Bold words = words you don't know how to use.

[caz]

wohoo samd is back god bless ur soul lool as much as u do annoy me id rather listen to wat u got to say then anything else that they others have typed in the last couple of days *:love: *:applause: *now wheres renee and emily, i cant believe im asking for renee *:roll: *:eh:

[Samuel]

wohoo samd is back god bless ur soul lool as much as u do annoy me id rather listen to wat u got to say then anything else that they others have typed in the last couple of days *:love: *:applause: *now wheres renee and emily, i cant believe im asking for renee *:roll: *:eh:

I'm always at your service. *Call me the "garden snake" that eats away at the rodents.

[Rita]

LMAO @ Samd. Isn't it funny how he tries to correct me but doesn't have the faintest idea that he should observe his own writings?

BTW, you bore me so I'm sure your questions will also. <<yawns>>

[pfizzle]

Damn I never knew that chaldeanchat.net *turned into chaldeanhistory.edu

damn times must've changed

<---- so please read my lips....

[Samuel]

Damn I never knew that chaldeanchat.net *turned into chaldeanhistory.edu

damn times must've changed

.edu would assume the shit these assholes had to say was worth listening to.

[caz]

^^^lmao, wat happened with the days that emily asked for questions and comments to help her out on her homework i miss those days, wheres emily haha, or when patti puts on pics of his car and shows us updates lol or when teffo put on new info or latest news that was happening, *:cry: *good old days *:roll:

btw samd watch out for pm's when im venting to u not being annoying and letting others take ur place on this site *:no no: *:mrgreen:

[KoolEug1981]

wow,

so much for trying to educate people about our history. *No wonder Chaldeans remain unknown outside of Michigan. *People have to realize that ethnic groups don't earn nationwide recognition by owning party stores and driving escalades with 20 inch rims. *We as an ethnic minority must strive to learn as much as possible about our history in order to educate others. *This is part of the reason why Jews and Armenians have been so successful. *I mean how people do u know are aware of the Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac genocide that took place in N. iraq and SE. Turkey? Probably a few, and thats within the Chaldean community. *Now ask everyone, including those outside the Chaldean culture, whether they have heard of the Holocust and the Armenian genocide. i bet u that u will get a different response. *Why? Because these minorities endeavored to educate others about their history. *Chaldean complacency and unwillingness to learn Mesopotmian history will have far-reaching implications: our beloved culture could vanish in the near future

[ojeen1981]

lolol..samd, your funny as hell and I love how people just right away jumped on the band wagon and agreed with u, hold up, let me do like u do, F this and F that ...u guys gonna agree with me too??

for once in your life try to educate yourselves instead of being superficial retards, open up a history book, a philosophy book, read about what the hell is going on in the world, read some politics,
trust me these things r more interesting than just throwing insults at other people, especially when those r people did not insult u and when they know their shit about history. And by the way, I didn’t see any of you guys attempting to answer his questions at all. If you didn’t like this question idea why the hell are on under this topic??? And plz dont waste my time with your ignorant response u know y? because what I said is true, what the hell u gonna tell me is just subjective emotions from your ass!! and I really hope that more chaldeans and Assyrians out their try to wake up and start educating yourselves so u’ll understand what this complex world is about..peeeeeeeeeace!

[Samuel]

lolol..samd, your funny as hell and I love how people just right away jumped on the band wagon and agreed with u, hold up, let me do like u do, F this and F that ...u guys gonna agree with me too??


And do you always excuse your boyfriend for his foul language (considering he did exactly what I did, only he did it first)? *Even when another guy cums all over his face, like i just did?

[Shlama_98]

1.) What does the word Mesopotamia mean?

- Mesopotamia is the Greek term for "Beth Nahren", Beth Nahren can have 2 meanings, one is "The land between the two rivers", and the other is "The home of the two rivers".

2.) The Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the lands of which present-day countries?

- It includes modern day Iraq, part of North and East of Syria and part of Southeast Turkey.

3.) Which ancient people were responsible for creating the first civilization?

- The Sumerians.

4.) Name the two rivers that run through Mesopotamia.

- Tigris and Euphrates.

5.) Which language group does Aramaic belong to?

- It's a Northwestern Semitic language which belongs to the Semitic family, and the Semitic family is a branch from the Afro-Asianic family.

6.) Who was the first king to promulgate laws in order to govern his subjects?

- Hammurabbi the Amorite who was the 6th king of the first Babylonian dynasty.

7.) In order to assuage the concerns of his home-sick wife, who was originally from mountainous Media, this king ordered the construction of the once glamorous hanging gardens of Babylon. *Please name this king.

- The king is Nebuchadnezzar II of the Neo-Babylonian period (Part of the Chaldean dynastry), he built the gardens to cheer up his home-sick wife as you said, her name was Amyitis, she was originally a Mede and the daughter of the Median king.

8.) Which Central Asian people conquered and micromanaged Mesopotamia for nearly 500 years?

- The Ottoman Turks.

9.) Which European power created and colonized Iraq in the beginning of the 20th century?

- The British.

10.) Who overthrew the pro-Western Iraqi monarchy in 1958?

- Abd al Karim Qasim.

[KoolEug1981]

Shlma,

I want to sincerely thank u for participating in my survey. *People like u represent the progressive faction of our people. *We sorely need more people like u who have keen interest in our history.

P.S.
Shlma,
Do u mind answering the 2nd set of questions.
11.) Who are the Mandeans?
12.) Which language family does Sumerian belong to?
13.) This entrepreneur discovered oil in Iraq and was later known as “Mr. 5%” because he maintained a share of Iraq’s oil profits. *Please name this individual.
14.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique?
15.) Who are the Jacobites? Please trace their ethnic origins and determine what kind of Christian theology they embrace.
16.) Name the 1st Iraqi monarch, derive his religious and ethnic origins, and explain how he was brought to power?
17.) This treaty was signed between Iraq and Iran in 1975 in order to restore stability and end ethnic strife in both countries. Please name the treaty and list the reasons why it was ratified.
18.) When was the Iraqi oil nationalized?
19.) This military officer was overthrown in 1963 after he toppled the pro-Western monarchy fiver years earlier. *Please name this political figure and explain in detail who and why was he overthrown.
20.) After subduing the Persian Empire, Alexander made this city the capital of his empire. *Please name this city.

[Teffo]

uuuh no arabic is not a modern version of aramaic...

hebrew is not derived from it...yiddish is what hebrew derives from and that is just bc of aramiac for jews its complicated but they use similiar alaphabets but its not the same...dont let the sound fool you

[proudchaldean]

11.) Who are the Mandeans? followers of john the baptist12.) Which language family does Sumerian belong to? NONE!!!
13.) This entrepreneur discovered oil in Iraq and was later known as “Mr. 5%” because he maintained a share of Iraq’s oil profits. *Please name this individual. -- Gulbenkian
14.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique? Devil Worshippers
15.)Who are the Jacobites? Please trace their ethnic origins and determine what kind of Christian theology they embrace. Christian church of Syria, Iraq, and India, recognizing the Syrian Orthodox patriarch of Antioch as its spiritual head, regarded by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox as heretical. It was founded (6th cent.) as a Monophysite church in Syria
16.) Name the 1st Iraqi monarch, derive his religious and ethnic origins, and explain how he was brought to power? Faisal I; Saudi; British
17.) This treaty was signed between Iraq and Iran in 1975 in order to restore stability and end ethnic strife in both countries. Please name the treaty and list the reasons why it was ratified. Algiers accord -- border disputes and the shat al arab
18.) When was the Iraqi oil nationalized? 1972???? i think
19.) This military officer was overthrown in 1963 after he toppled the pro-Western monarchy fiver years earlier. *Please name this political figure and explain in detail who and why was he overthrown. General Abd al Karim Qassim
20.) After subduing the Persian Empire, Alexander made this city the capital of his empire. *Please name this city. persepolis????

[proudchaldean]

let me know if i was right on those...i looked the jacobite one up...still unclear who they are

[Shlama_98]

No problem Kool, I did't see it at first, but here is my answers:

11.) Who are the Mandeans?

- Mandeans (Also known as Sabians or Subba in Arabic) are a group that dwelles in South Iraq and Iran, Mandaeanism is also a religion and pretty much classified as gnostic, their main prophet is John the Baptist, but this does't mean they believe in Jesus because Jesus in their teachings is a bad figure, and their native language is some form of Eastern Aramaic, even though barely anyone actually speaks it but it remains used in their religious rituals.

12.) Which language family does Sumerian belong to?

- The Sumerian language is unknown, it's a mystery and they don't know what family it belongs to, so it's classified as language isolate meaning it does't belong to any known language family.

13.) This entrepreneur discovered oil in Iraq and was later known as “Mr. 5%” because he maintained a share of Iraq’s oil profits. *Please name this individual.

- William Knox D'Arcy.

14.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique?

- A group that dwelles in North Iraq and smaller communities in other countries near by, Yazedis also follow a unique religion compared to the rest around them because they believe in a figure called "Malek Tawoos" which means the "King Peacock", and this Tawoos represents the devil, the Yaziedis believe in both God and the devil, so often they are labeled as devil worshippers. Also the language they speak is Kurdish, so the majority considor them a stock of Kurds, but the Yazedis themselves disagree with that and say they are not Kurdish.

15.) Who are the Jacobites? Please trace their ethnic origins and determine what kind of Christian theology they embrace.

- The Jacobites are the Syriacs who followed Yacob of Urhoy, their origins trace to the Syriac Orthodox Church of Antoich, in fact that's the official name for their Church today, but the term Jacobite is a wrong term given to them by their enemies, the kind of Christianity they followed was Orthodox Christianity and they still do that today, their background is still debated til this day, a lot agree that they come from an Aramean background due to their location, but let's not forget that the area was highly mixed with many other groups so in my opinion they are also a mixed group, I personally call them Western Assyrians because Harran was an Assyrian capital at one point and that side of Assyria was very important during the Assyrian period, so while we can't draw their ethnic background, we can at least say their ancestors were Assyrian citizens at one point.

16.) Name the 1st Iraqi monarch, derive his religious and ethnic origins, and explain how he was brought to power?

- King Faisal the first was Iraq's first monarch, he was originally from Saudi Arabia and was brought to power by the Brits because they decided to step back when they experienced opposition from the people, so they made an agreement (If you wanna call it that) with King Faisal and this agreement made Iraq independ, of course this agreement also made sure that the Brits will control things through this monarchy.

17.) This treaty was signed between Iraq and Iran in 1975 in order to restore stability and end ethnic strife in both countries. Please name the treaty and list the reasons why it was ratified.

- Not sure about the name, but I know the treaty was over the borders and shat al arab, I know both sides did't keep the treaty which resulted to the Iraqi-Irani war, but that's as far as I know about it.

18.) When was the Iraqi oil nationalized?

- I'm not sure about this one, but I think it was 1972.

19.) This military officer was overthrown in 1963 after he toppled the pro-Western monarchy fiver years earlier. *Please name this political figure and explain in detail who and why was he overthrown.

- This sounds like Abd al Karim Qasim, and he was killed by the Baath party, not sure of the exact reasons.

20.) After subduing the Persian Empire, Alexander made this city the capital of his empire. *Please name this city.

- Babylon.

[Teffo]

ummm isnt it that it wasnt his citys capital he just vacationed there bc of the well to be real the hoochies and alcohol!

[Anonymous]

uuuh no arabic is not a modern version of aramaic...

hebrew is not derived from it...yiddish is what hebrew derives from and that is just bc of aramiac for jews its complicated but they use similiar alaphabets but its not the same...dont let the sound fool you

I thought Jesus spoke Hebrew.

[Teffo]

jesus spoke aramiac for hebrews...its called the babylonian captivity that is why jews know aramiac...its not there language orginally

[Shlama_98]

uuuh no arabic is not a modern version of aramaic...

hebrew is not derived from it...yiddish is what hebrew derives from and that is just bc of aramiac for jews its complicated but they use similiar alaphabets but its not the same...dont let the sound fool you

What are you talking about? it's the other way around, Yiddish derives from Hebrew and they are two different languages, Hebrew is a pure semitic language and very similar to Aramaic, Yiddish on the other hand is a mix of Old German and Hebrew, it's more of an Indo-European language with a semitic influence in it, Yiddish is spoken by the Ashkenazi Jews (European Jews).

There's also Ladino which is Classical Spanish mixed with Hebrew, this is spoken by the Saphardi Jews (Jews of Spain and North Africa), and there's also Mizrahi which is Hebrew mixed with Arabic, this is spoken by the Jews who live in the Middle East (Yemenite Jews, Iraqi Jews, and so on), there's also Jews who speak Eastern Aramaic dialects in North Iraq like Lishana Deni, Lishan Noshan, and so on (They're in Israel now), they call it Judian-Aramaic.

[ojeen1981]

Teffo, this is a clear subject, Hebrew and Arabic are both a semitic language dervied from Aramiac (yeddish is something totaly different).

[KoolEug1981]

Yiddish is a hybrid of Hebrew and German spoken by Ashkenazi Jews in Europe. *Thank you

Shlma,
You answered 8 of 10 questions correctly. *I will post the answers to the questions later because I want to offer others a chance to answer them. *Thanks again

[KoolEug1981]

Shlma,

do u agree with the statement that Armenians and Assyrians have, for the most part, shared similar historical experiences. *I personally would go as far as saying that we have more things in common with Armenians than with Arabs. *I think that this relationship stretches back to ancient times, when the Assyrians had numerous contacts with the Kingdom of Uratu. *I think what makes these ethnic groups so akin culturally is the fact that both *used the Christian religion as a means to forge a collective identity. *I want to hear ur comments please, thank u very much

[Teffo]

Shlma,

do u agree with the statement that Armenians and Assyrians have, for the most part, shared similar historical experiences. *I personally would go as far as saying that we have more things in common with Armenians than with Arabs. *I think that this relationship stretches back to ancient times, when the Assyrians had numerous contacts with the Kingdom of Uratu. *I think what makes these ethnic groups so akin culturally is the fact that both *used the Christian religion as a means to forge a collective identity. *I want to hear ur comments please, thank u very much


i'm not trying to burst my way into this convo, but i have to agree with your statement...and it seems really ironic that so many Armenians can speak our language so well in our dialect and all that good stuff...and that even though they have their own country that so many of them continue to live in Iraq amongst Assyrians & Chaldeans

[Shlama_98]

Shlma,

do u agree with the statement that Armenians and Assyrians have, for the most part, shared similar historical experiences. *I personally would go as far as saying that we have more things in common with Armenians than with Arabs. *I think that this relationship stretches back to ancient times, when the Assyrians had numerous contacts with the Kingdom of Uratu. *I think what makes these ethnic groups so akin culturally is the fact that both *used the Christian religion as a means to forge a collective identity. *I want to hear ur comments please, thank u very much

Well, Assyrians and Armenians do have more in common with each other then the Assyrians and Arabs, that's true to a point, but language wise Assyrians and Arabs are closer of course cause there's no connection with Syriac and Armenian.

But recent history shows that Assyrians of Southeast Turkey and Northwest Iran lived side by side with the Armenians, and it was quite common seeing Assyrians and Armenians marrying each other, I can pretty much bet that a lot of Assyrians have an Armenian ancestor down the line somewhere since we married a lot with them, and of course this helped us keep our name and religion cause we both shared the same faith and there was no problems between us, I'm pretty sure if we shared the same faith with Kurds, Arabs, Persians, and so on you'd see us marrying them too, but that's not the case.

But if we're talking about Ancient history, Assyrians had a lot of issues with the Kingdom of Urartu, but the Armenians were't there at the time, according to scholars the first Armenians to settle in Urartu (Ararat) came in the 6th century BC, they were tribes from the Caucus and adopted the name of king Aram as their name, before that the area had a population of people who were more related to the Hurrians which are non-Semites and non-Indo Europeans.

[KoolEug1981]

The Armenians are a mixture of ancient peoples who were indiginous of the Cacaucsus and Thraco-Phrygians who emmigrated to Anatolia in the 6th century *This is evident in their language, which is considered Indo-European because of the Thraco-Phrygian influence. *However, the Armenian langauge still maintained indiginous idioms and elements from Urartu. *For example, the word Haystan (Armenia) is contains 2 elements, one indiginous (Hay), which is the name that uratru used to describe themselves, and stan, which is indo-european for land. *The Uratur had numerous dealings with Assyrians in ancient time. *

Before St.. Mesrop constructed the Armenian alphabet, Armenians were using Syriac script for liturgical purposes.

[Mishlene]

thats soooo interesting i didnt know all of those answers thanx :)

[Shlama_98]

The Armenians are a mixture of ancient peoples who were indiginous of the Cacaucsus and Thraco-Phrygians who emmigrated to Anatolia in the 6th century *This is evident in their language, which is considered Indo-European because of the Thraco-Phrygian influence. *However, the Armenian langauge still maintained indiginous idioms and elements from Urartu. *For example, the word Haystan (Armenia) is contains 2 elements, one indiginous (Hay), which is the name that uratru used to describe themselves, and stan, which is indo-european for land. *The Uratur had numerous dealings with Assyrians in ancient time. *

Before St.. Mesrop constructed the Armenian alphabet, Armenians were using Syriac script for liturgical purposes.

Well of course they're a mixture group, they eventually mixed in with the ones in Urartu, you know this is what happened to the Assyrians, they eventually took over other parts within their own homeland (Like the kingdom of Mitanni) that was runned by the Hurrians, their two major cities were Arrapkha (Modern Kirkuk) and Nuzi (Near Kirkuk), once this area became part of Assyria the Hurrians mixed it and became Assyrian, plus the other groups around them that mixed in like the Amorites, Akkadians, Arameans, and so on, so the Armenians.

To tell you the truth, there's no such thing as pure race today, every culture has mixed in at some point.

[KoolEug1981]

I think its degrading that Sam posted such a picture. *Down Syndrome, a genetic anomaly caused on chromosome 21, is prevalent in the US. *We have to give these less fortunate people the respect needed for them to function in our society. *otherwise, these individuals might feel marginalized.

How embarrasing? *Posting a picture of someone with down syndrome is considered entertaining? *What type of message were u *trying to convey? U people make me embarrased in front of other ethnic groups (those outside our culture). *Is this the type of image u want to portray to non-Chaldeans. *this is sad

Sam, u should commend urself for reinforcing the stereotypes that people already have of chaldeans (which is that they are dumb, retarded people, mainly concerned with accumulating wealth, owning party stores, and driving escalades with 20 inch rims). *CrimeBoss was an Armenian, and now he will inform everyone on WSU campus of this embrassing act. *Everyone on WSU campus will agree with CrimeBoss's portryal of Chadleans because it is congruent with their perception of Chaldeans (that they are dumb n drive esclaldes)

[pfizzle]

I think its degrading that Sam posted such a picture. *Down Syndrome, a genetic anomaly caused on chromosome 21, is prevalent in the US. *We have to give these less fortunate people the respect needed for them to function in our society. *otherwise, these individuals might feel marginalized.

How embarrasing? *Posting a picture of someone with down syndrome is considered entertaining? *What type of message were u *trying to convey? U people make me embarrased in front of other ethnic groups (those outside our culture). *Is this the type of image u want to portray to non-Chaldeans. *this is sad

Sam, u should commend urself for reinforcing the stereotypes that people already have of chaldeans (which is that they are dumb, retarded people, mainly concerned with accumulating wealth, owning party stores, and driving escalades with 20 inch rims). *CrimeBoss was an Armenian, and now he will inform everyone on WSU campus of this embrassing act. *Everyone on WSU campus will agree with CrimeBoss's portryal of Chadleans because it is congruent with their perception of Chaldeans (that they are dumb n drive esclaldes)

There is pm's brother....ooops (pm's means "Private messaging")

[KoolEug1981]

"Beware of the newspapers. They will have you hating the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing."

Please tell me who said that?

[Teffo]

malcom x

[BONO]

malcom x

Majid Kakka

[KoolEug1981]

What message was he trying to coney? And what is he alluding to?

[UmiSayz]

About the Israeli/ Palistinian situation and about how america is supporting it...

[sammiedebull]

"About the Israeli/ Palistinian situation and about how america is supporting it..."

WHAT A MESS! I was watching today on CSPAN a conference for teh israeli lobby group dinner with lawmaerks on there speaking to teh audience, wow, can you say "oneeeeeeeeee sided". I seriously could not believe what i was hearing. It was amazing. It was like a kid in a party store begging the owner for some candy. I seriously could nto believe that every law maker went up there feeling like they had to please and make the crowd happy or it was death.

I seriously felt bad for them on this day.

[Samuel]

I think its degrading that Sam posted such a picture. *Down Syndrome, a genetic anomaly caused on chromosome 21, is prevalent in the US. *We have to give these less fortunate people the respect needed for them to function in our society. *otherwise, these individuals might feel marginalized.

How embarrasing? *Posting a picture of someone with down syndrome is considered entertaining? *What type of message were u *trying to convey? U people make me embarrased in front of other ethnic groups (those outside our culture). *Is this the type of image u want to portray to non-Chaldeans. *this is sad

Sam, u should commend urself for reinforcing the stereotypes that people already have of chaldeans (which is that they are dumb, retarded people, mainly concerned with accumulating wealth, owning party stores, and driving escalades with 20 inch rims). *CrimeBoss was an Armenian, and now he will inform everyone on WSU campus of this embrassing act. *Everyone on WSU campus will agree with CrimeBoss's portryal of Chadleans because it is congruent with their perception of Chaldeans (that they are dumb n drive esclaldes)

There is pm's brother....ooops (pm's means "Private messaging")

He only mentioned this so that he could point out the bold. * *Your boy toy crimeboss must think that you're soooo smart. *Thanks for "reinforcing" 10th grade AP bio, incorrectly. *

Btw....sucka. * It's Down's Syndrome. Named after John Down, the man who discovered it. *It's my time to shine and call you the fvcking moron in not so many words. * And even a more technical term for it is, Trisomy 21. *And it's not caused by an anomaly, but rather an extra [21] chromosome. * *So everything you stated was WRONG. *Ouch. *Must be your education.

Oh yeah, and No one at my tier one school gives a shit what people at your tier 8 school think anyway. *Go blow yourselves.

[Samuel]

"About the Israeli/ Palistinian situation and about how america is supporting it..."

WHAT A MESS! I was watching today on CSPAN a conference for teh israeli lobby group dinner with lawmaerks on there speaking to teh audience, wow, can you say "oneeeeeeeeee sided". I seriously could not believe what i was hearing. It was amazing. It was like a kid in a party store begging the owner for some candy. I seriously could nto believe that every law maker went up there feeling like they had to please and make the crowd happy or it was death.

I seriously felt bad for them on this day.


Oh wow. *Look at who turned out to be the communist. *He doubts religion. *And now he suspects Israel of their intentions. *I guess i've influenced you more than you'd like to think. *BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA. *

samd > * * * * :alright:

[sammiedebull]

Haha, i don't doubt religion, that's insane, im just saying that you cannot read and take everything literally, thats all, and not one specific religion is right like rudy and others say, thats insane, you need to let God handle the judging and not yourself. I do not support the death penalty but not for this reason, i think its the easyw ay out!

Communist, wahoo :) go Russia, actually I hate communism, it's the worst form of government I believe. It indirectly oppresses people.

Also I am no fan of the Israels nor the Palestinians, it's just for the love of God, if you want to play an even broker between 2 parties, do not stand up at an Israel lobby dinner and shmoz to them while the Palestinians are obviously listening! For the love of God!

Also for your reference samd, I do not believe in reincarnation, athiesm, agnostics, thats pretty crazy. I am pretty far to the right, I am not a religious freak but I do think about God in most things i do in life. (e.g. I do not drink, smoke, go to bars and strip clubs, cheat, steal,etc) Am I perfect? Nope, far from it, but I try my best!

The arguement that rudy is making is that God can be Proven, that you can prove that religious books can be proven, my arguement is that you really cannot prove them but you can have faith in them and that is what I have. I believe that religious scripture was written or spoken by God, but can i sit here and prove it to everyone? NOPE, I can't. BUT can i sit here and translate the good and the bad in the religious scripture, sure, i think it is not to hard, i think that if you read religious scripture, no matter which one, they usually pass a message of live, family and kindness.

But remmeber, the same arguement can be made for evolution, you can't prove it one bit, actually you have a better chance proving its wrong than right. With religion you have a better chance of proving it to be right than wrong.

Actually the jews have the best lobby group in the USA, good for them, atleast they know how to do things the right way!

samd, you are a moron :) but really, are you an athiest? I asked the question before, are you?

You seem to make judgements about others, calling them communists, athiests, non-belivers, idiots? what are you?

1) what is your religion if any? Athiest or at the best an agnostic?

2) political party? i guess i can answer this, left wing democrat?

You should never judge others about their views and following unless you put your views and following on the table, kind of makes you a hypocrite.

[sammiedebull]

About the Israeli and Palestinian Issue, I think that Israel should pull out of all Gaza and all the West Bak, split jeourasem in 1/2 and have a palestinian and israeli state, if someone wants a solution, this is the only way!

getting out of gaza is not a solutoon, basically sharon knows what hes doing people :) hes getting 10,000 settles out of gaza and moving them to start new ones in the west bank :) the west bank for israel is much more important than gaza because they have more room to operate and religious sites to preserve.

[KoolEug1981]

SAM d,
Y r u calling me a moron? *You barely know me. *I have a bachelors degree in political science and I am currently attending medical school. *My father has an MD and a Phd in medicine, and my mom has a masters in math. *I come from an educated family. *How can u have the audacity to disparage my character. I already knew down syndrome was a trisomy. *I have nothing to prove to u. *It seems to me that u were anxiously waiting *for this moment in order to discredit my education. *u have no idea what kinnda education I have. *I can discuss any topic and make u feel stupid right now, but I choose not to because I have too much dignity to give kids like u the time. *So, u think ur smart ha. How come u never bothered to answer the questions I posted. *Don't attack people u don't know please.

And SamI, the owner of the website, u should be ashamed of urself. *How come u never criticized SamD for being vulgar. *He practically called me a f***ing moron. *I recall u banning my friend for the exact same reason. *Is it because SamD is not vociferous enough to criticize the policies of the website?*I wonder

Now I like to take time and thank everyone in the chaldean chatroom for reinforcing the stereotypes that I already have of chaldeans. *U guys left an indelible mark on me. *The time n energy I put to educate u people was obviously not forthcoming. *This is part of the reason why I dissociate myself from Chaldeans. *As a Syriac, I sometimes feel embrassed to insinuate that I have ethnic affinity with chaldeans. *This is probably the last time I'm gonna post something. *Again, I like to thank everyone (including the owner) for making my experience in this chatroom acrimonious. *Peace n God bless

[Samuel]

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1) what is your religion if any? Athiest or at the best an agnostic?

2) political party? i guess i can answer this, left wing democrat?

You should never judge others about their views and following unless you put your views and following on the table, kind of makes you a hypocrite.


Labels are pretty stupid, don't you think? *Besides why do you care so much about my religious/political affiliations?


I don't know you. *I don't feel that I'm obligated to tell you anything about myself. *


BTW... statements like "at best an agnostic" make you look dummmm. * Talk about judging people. * *:bang:

[Samuel]

SAM d,
Y r u calling me a moron. *You barely know me. *I have a bachelors degree in political science and I am currently attending medical school. *I already knew down syndrome was a trisomy. *I have nothing to prove to u. *It seems to me that u were for this moment in order to discredit my education. *u have no idea what kinnda education I have. *I can discuss any topic and make u feel stupid right now, but I choose not to because I have too much dignity to give kids like u the time. *So, u think ur smart ha. How come u never bothered to answer the questions I posted. *Don't attack people u don't know please.

And SamI, the owner of the website, u should be ashamed of urself. *How come u never criticized SamD for being vulgar. *He practically called me a f***ing moron. *I recall u banning my friend for the exact same reason. *It is because SamD is subservient to the demands of the promoters of this website and not vociferous enough to criticize the policies of the website. *I wonder


No actually. *I did call you a fvcking moron. *And look. *I just did it again.

[KoolEug1981]

samd,

u r a kid!!!

[Samuel]

samd,

u r a kid!!!


o m i????? *noooooO!!! *sum1 help!!! *:( *I dun want kool callin me a kid nemore. *SamIAM ban him or I will partake in exuberance to ethos the crying k!!! *omg i jus use three big wordz. *I must have poli sci degree.

[ojeen1981]

samd, i respect and appreciate to your knowledge about everything and whats more i love your form of articulating that kowledge to people...bro is this how u can teach your kids? to be dumb asses like yourself.....??? God forbid the world gets more people like you man....peeeeeeeeace and i know ull inslut me back...go for it, i aint readin it.

[sammiedebull]

samd, you cant speak about something unless you state your stance :) It gives you more credibility :) When you talk to people, you state who and what you are and what you believe than you begin to make the case.

[KoolEug1981]

The answers are posted below

[Savoshka]

hey u guys...here are my answers, now correct me if im worng

What does the word Mesopotamia mean?
The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq means country with deep roots. *Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. *

The Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the lands of which present-day countries? Mesopotamia of antiquity comprises the present-day countries of Lebanon, Syria, Turkey, Israel, Iran, Iraq and Jordan.

Which ancient people were responsible for creating the first civilization?
The first great civilization, located between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, was developed in 5000 B.C.
Archaeologists and historians discovered this "cradle of civilization" buried under sandy mounds of the vast plain which were the remains of Ancient Mesopotamia.
Mesopotamia is derived from the Greek words, mesos meaning "middle," and potamos meaning "river," *which became known as the "land between two rivers." *Mesopotamia no longer exists today. *It is now known as all the land in northern Syria, southern Turkey, and most of Iraq. *Researchers believe the peoples of Mesopotamia influenced the development of the human race in many ways.

Name the two rivers that run through Mesopotamia.
The Tigris and Euphrates Rivers

Which language group does Aramaic belong to?
Aramaic belongs to the Afro-Asiatic language family. Within that diverse family, it belongs to the Semitic subfamily. Aramaic is a part of the Northwest Semitic group of languages, which also includes the Canaanite languages (including Hebrew). * *


Who was the first king to spread laws in order to govern his subjects?
Hammurabi

In order to assuage the concerns of his home-sick wife, who was originally from mountainous Media, this king ordered the construction of the once glamorous hanging gardens of Babylon. *Please name this king. Nebuchadnezzar

Which Central Asian people conquered and micromanaged Mesopotamia for nearly 500 years? [/shadow:b2287fe3ad]
The Turks

[shadow=]Which European power created and colonized Iraq in the beginning of the 20th century?
British and France *

Who overthrew the pro-Western Iraqi monarchy in 1958?
General Abdul Karim Kassem


:jive: *:jive:
Savoshka

[KoolEug1981]

11.) Who are the Mandeans? The Mandeans' ethnic origins remains obscure, but some scholars attest that they are Arameans. *Others contend that they are Babylonian descent since their religious rituals resemble ancient Babylonian customs. *Needless to say, Mandeans embrace a religious theology that puts overemphasis on baptism as a means to attain spiritual salvation. *This is the primary reason why John the Baptist is revered in their religion. *The Mandean religion also contains some borrowed elements from Gnosticism, which was a heterodox sect that advocated the belief that salvation can only be achieved via gnosis, that is, self-knowledge. *Gnostics also renounce materialism and stress that it is the source of all evils.


12.) Which language family does Sumerian belong to?
Sumerian does not belong to any language group.


13.) This entrepreneur discovered oil in Iraq and was later known as “Mr. 5%” because he maintained a share of Iraq’s oil profits. *Please name this individual. Gulbenkian


14.) Who are the Yazedis and what makes them so unique? Kurdish ethnicity residing in N. Iraq and Armenia. Espouse a religion akin to Zoroastrianism.


15.) Who are the Jacobites? Please trace their ethnic origins and determine what kind of Christian theology they embrace. Jacobites are Syriacs or Western Assyrians who embrace the monophosyte creed that Jesus had only one nature, divine


16.) Name the 1st Iraqi monarch, derive his religious and ethnic origins, and explain how he was brought to power? King Fasil was a Hashemite and he was thus considered a descendant of Mohammed. *The British brought him to power after covertly carving out new borders of the ME with the French. *


17.) This treaty was signed between Iraq and Iran in 1975 in order to restore stability and end ethnic strife in both countries. Please name the treaty and list the reasons why it was ratified. The name of treaty was the Algiers Accord. *It highlighted three main issues: the status of the disputed territory of Shatt Al-Arab, Shah’s overt support for Kurdish insurgency in N. Iraq, and Iraq’s unequivocal support for Baluchi aspiration to gain self-determination at the expense of Iran’s territorial sanctity.


18.) When was the Iraqi oil nationalized? 1972


19.) This military officer was overthrown in 1963 after he toppled the pro-Western monarchy fiver years earlier. *Please name this political figure and explain in detail who and why was he overthrown. There are numerous reasons why Abdul Karim Qassem was overthrown. *One part was because he dissolved the US- backed Baghdad Pact, which was formed by the US with the aim of containing the spread of communism in the ME. *Abdul Karim Kassem fell out of favor with the US after he partially nationalized the oil industry and after he instituted agrigarin land reforms. *Kassem further incensed the US and the West by promoting the formation of OPEC. *Abdul Karim Kassem was also loathed by Nasser because he opposed pan-Arabism as an ideology. *Thus, the Baathists, in collaboration with the CIA and Egypt, overthrew Kassem in order to meet the economic needs of Western countries. *Nasser tacitly supported this US-orchestrated coup d'etat because he wanted to bolster his image in the ME.


20.) After subduing the Persian Empire, Alexander made this city the capital of his empire. *Please name this city. Babylon

[KoolEug1981]

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

This quote is reminscent of how the Bush administration garnered support for its war efforts