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Just wanted to know what the majority was in this chat forum. I personally am a Democrat and would never consider to be a Republican! Being a Democrat represents the voice of the minority respects our differences. The Republicans are only concerned to social standing in the US.
Besides, why would I want to be the same thing as George Bush (both father & son). They have proven to be liers and have only hurt our people....regardless if Saddam is out of power. He is the same as Saddam. Bush killed innocent people for no reason, just to get revenge for his dad. Not to mention, the society of Iraq is in shambles at this time.
If you think about it...would you rather have a president who gets a BJ & no one gets hurt in the process? He corrected the health care policy & our economy and was doing better than ever. Or one that lies to his people so they back him to go to war & nothing comes out of it? Not to mention, the economy in the US has gone downhill.
Armenian
10-08-2003, 03:23 PM
Being a Republican means you belive in working hard for what you want in life. There should be no free lunch and no special treatment for "certain" people.. Everyone should be treated eqaully and not get special treatment no matter what thier race or skin color is. It is time in our civilized society to take a stand against racial benifits in this melting pot called the USA. Everyone should pay the same percentage of taxes (according to thier income) rather than relying on the weathliest to have a higher percentage of tax rate because they "have more money". Its just not fair to the working man or the person that earned that money! My enitire family is part of the Armenian-American Republican party because we came to the USA with absoloutly NOTHING (I mean dirt poor)! Through hard work, my family became very weathly in the USA. Nobody gave US anything or gave US a free lunch, yet look at us today. We didn't need no welfare, no special treament.. We just needed OURSELVS!! Like I always say, "you should only depend and rely on yourself".
Don't get me wrong, I do give money to charity and people who are handicapped and less fortunate.. But I have a problem with a homeless person standing by a "help wanted" sign at Mcdonanlds asking for money. I am all for the hard working man/woman, and it does not matter what class or walk of life he/she is from. I admire anyone who works hard for thier money rather than just live off of the working man's hard earned tax money.
As for people viewing the Republican party according to the actions of ONE person (ie Goerge Bush), that is plain wrong, inaccurate and a liberal way of thinking. There is Moderate Republicans and there is Conservative Republicans.
SamIAM™
10-08-2003, 03:26 PM
Republican baby,
Liers are good ;), i dont think the public needs to know the truth (well only sometimes ;) ). Its a tough world out there democrats are wayyyy to conservative IMO
Kikhwa
10-08-2003, 03:52 PM
I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat.
Republicans (politicians at least) are self-serving criminals who've grown up with a silver spoon in their mouths and live in a vaccuous world. Most Repubs got into office because of their free ride - look who's pres?!
Sure working hard to make it on your own is a grand ideal but everyone's situation is different. Sometimes welfare programs are needed. Charity *is* a good thing. It doesn't always have to mean money either. A helping hand pointed in the right direction to the nearest shelter or employment agency is a form of charity.
Democrats (politicians at least) are in denial of their inaction. Sometimes it's ok to take a stand on issues and follow through, not just by whining.
Both these parties are run by corporations anyway. They'll both run the country by what Enron (at least in the past), Halliburton and the Carlyle Group wants.
If anything, I'd be a Green.
OMG, I can't even believe you really think that way Armenian. Being a democrat makes you fight for equality.... which is how we got democracy. I would like you to do some research and see if all the taxes (state, gov't federal, city, etc.) should have been cut from the pay your family made when they first came to America were cut. You know, it is proven that America doesn't take out the entire percent of taxes back in those days to immigrants. But that is not the case right now. You do not know the reason why many people are umemployed (yes many jobs have been cut & people are layed off nowadays due to the Bush administration). There are many veterans who are now homeless. The trauma of the war have made them lose everything they once had. Besides, how many people out there would try to hire a homeless person. It is very hard for them to get a job. You need a form of residence in any job (some type of address). You do not know the stories of reasons why people are homeless. It could be due to abuse of any form, sickness, layed off & serious conditions. I don't believe it's because all of them are just lazy. I have read a pole and it showed that the majority of Americans would be homeless or lose many of their posessions if they were to be behind 2 paychecks!!!
My family came to America as well. My father worked very hard with long hours each day to support us. We did not receive help from welfare as well. We ended up owning our own business and are well off. We pay taxes just as everyoe else does. Not to mention, when you are well off... you get a better tax return. Which is why I'm sure you give money to charity...you'll get it back in the end.
There will be many situations where people will take advantage of welfare and such, but it is our governement's duty to correct that. Welfare is only used to help people get on their feet while they look for a job and make money.
God put us on this Earth to help others in need. God had his son, Jesus, help all the people that did not have much of anything. He heeled the sick, got everyone back on their feet and fed the poor. I feel it is my duty to help fill His shoes as best possible and make sure that everyone is taken care of and loved.
No matter if you are rrich or poor, you are human and require the same.
[quote="Kikhwa"]I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat.
Republicans (politicians at least) are self-serving criminals who've grown up with a silver spoon in their mouths and live in a vaccuous world. Most Repubs got into office because of their free ride - look who's pres?!quote]
I DEFINATELY AGREE!!! :alright:
Armenian
10-08-2003, 04:06 PM
You said it yourself.. Democrats are only for special treatment of Minorities.. Where as I preach equality.. Even when it comes to that "dreaded white man" everyone seems to hate these days. There has to be a time when ethnic classification as an American must come to an end. We are a melting pot in the USA.. It already is starting to become a gray area on who gets special treatment and who does not.
Armenian
10-08-2003, 04:08 PM
OMG, I can't even believe you really think that way Armenian.
belive it... Just as I respect your views.. why doesn't anyone respect mine?
SamIAM™
10-08-2003, 04:09 PM
I don't think you should compare politics to religion and God. I don't think politics are even moral, God didn't want anyone to rule others, or take away from others. God wanted peace for everyone. ;)
Armenian
10-08-2003, 04:10 PM
[quote=Kikhwa]Republicans (politicians at least) are self-serving criminals who've grown up with a silver spoon in their mouths and live in a vaccuous world. Most Repubs got into office because of their free ride - look who's pres?!quote]
I DEFINATELY AGREE!!! :alright:
so I guess that means my famliy is a bunch of criminals... thanks. :alright:
WindyCityImports
10-08-2003, 04:17 PM
Being a Republican means you belive in working hard for what you want in life. There should be no free lunch and no special treatment for "certain" people.. Everyone should be treated eqaully and not get special treatment no matter what thier race or skin color is. It is time in our civilized society to take a stand against racial benifits in this melting pot called the USA. Everyone should pay the same percentage of taxes (according to thier income) rather than relying on the weathliest to have a higher percentage of tax rate because they "have more money". Its just not fair to the working man or the person that earned that money! My enitire family is part of the Armenian-American Republican party because we came to the USA with absoloutly NOTHING (I mean dirt poor)! Through hard work, my family became very weathly in the USA. Nobody gave US anything or gave US a free lunch, yet look at us today. We didn't need no welfare, no special treament.. We just needed OURSELVS!! Like I always say, "you should only depend and rely on yourself".
Don't get me wrong, I do give money to charity and people who are handicapped and less fortunate.. But I have a problem with a homeless person standing by a "help wanted" sign at Mcdonanlds asking for money. I am all for the hard working man/woman, and it does not matter what class or walk of life he/she is from. I admire anyone who works hard for thier money rather than just live off of the working man's hard earned tax money.
As for people viewing the Republican party according to the actions of ONE person (ie Goerge Bush), that is plain wrong, inaccurate and a liberal way of thinking. There is Moderate Republicans and there is Conservative Republicans.
Best Post Ever.
I got your back David ;) .
Armenian
10-08-2003, 04:19 PM
^^Basima khon.
Well my point was that Democrats respect other cultures & values of a minority. Whereas, Republics are more narrow-minded. More of their views are based on the old fashioned "White-bread American."
I didn't say YOUR FAMILY were criminals. But I do agree that most republicans were fed with a silver spoon. Like you & most others have stated in your past comments, you want to give your children everything they can imagine. Spoiling kids is not the way and basically, it becomes a social standing.
I want to give my child everything he/she needs...not what he/she wants. I want my children to grow up and learn the hardhsips in this world. I believe that's what makes you a better person all around (once you've seen how it is not to have everything you work hard for it, not whine...to get it.)
WindyCityImports
10-08-2003, 04:21 PM
I don't think you should compare politics to religion and God. I don't think politics are even moral, God didn't want anyone to rule others, or take away from others. God wanted peace for everyone. ;)
There should always be a sets of rules in place that govern nations...not everyone is as smart as you and I. People need to be told what to do, what not to do. Certain people posess gifts from God that allow them to make great decisions and be great leaders. This nation is great because it has given us freedom and resources no other country in this world could EVER give. I thank God for this every day.
WindyCityImports
10-08-2003, 04:45 PM
The Republicans are only concerned to social standing in the US.
Bull$hit. If you can say this, I have every right to say democrats are only concerned with $ and power. But I won't because I don't BASH people.
Besides, why would I want to be the same thing as George Bush (both father & son). They have proven to be liers and have only hurt our people....regardless
Hurt our people? Really. I don't think the $15 million dollars that Mr. Bush & this "crooked" government gave for OUR people hurt us. In fact, that was the first time the U.S. recognized the minorities in Iraq.
Bush killed innocent people for no reason, just to get revenge for his dad. Not to mention, the society of Iraq is in shambles at this time.
For no reason?...good one. And you're from France or Germany, I forgot.
If you think about it...would you rather have a president who gets a BJ & no one gets hurt in the process? He corrected the health care policy & our economy and was doing better than ever.
Our economy wasn't better off because of him. It was the inflated tech stocks and need for technology that had the economy booming.
Or one that lies to his people so they back him to go to war & nothing comes
out of it? Not to mention, the economy in the US has gone downhill.
Nothing comes out of it...Great, good optimism :alright:
Armenian
10-08-2003, 04:54 PM
If you think about it...would you rather have a president who gets a BJ & no one gets hurt in the process?
Why does everyone forget that Clinton himself threw some bombs in Iraq?!?!?! It was not a full scale war, but he did order bombings. Clinton also stated the dangers of Saddam during his presedncy. But being the Liberal Dem that he is, he changed his view once Bush came into power.
And what about clinton Bombing the HELL out of Christian Yogoslavia?!?!?! I guess thats ok in your eyes. Or is worth overlooking.
Armenian
10-08-2003, 05:01 PM
And it is true that Iraq is "in shambles". Iraq has ALWAYS been in Shambles even when Saddam was in power.. However, Saddam would end those violent uprisings in one day by GASSING EVERYONE. End of story no questions asked. Now when an uprising occurs in oocupied Iraq it ends with an American dying.
Its a tough call... Would you rather have Iraqis gassed for protesting or have chaos?
Renay Nicole
10-08-2003, 06:58 PM
Very well stated, Armenian!!! :applause:
I'm 100 % Republican as well.
Whether anyone realizes it or not, Pres. Bush changed the history of mankind for the better. However, it can never be proven. It was just a matter of time before one of Saddam's sons took over leadership of Iraq, both complete psychopaths. Can you imagine nuclear weapons in the hands of a psychopath?
Spoiledgal
10-08-2003, 07:07 PM
WOW, :shock: I LEAVE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND RETURN TO THIS.....u guys r cute! :alright: :jive:
ill be back with a response, i have to get back to class :lol:
The Godfather
10-08-2003, 08:36 PM
LoL at Spoilgal. Had to go back to class.
Me=Democrate, Bill Clinton is my hero, I think he's the best speaker ever.
Rita is obviously a stupid liberal Girl who don't know a thing. i was born in that hell hole you call Iraq, i am Chaldean and thank God for USA and thank God i raised all my kids 100% pure Americans. there is nothing i want to associate myself with Iraq, i saw nothing but hell from there. anyway, i am 100% with Armenian. the problem with people like Rita is, she is ignorant, she has no clue what she is saying. i am assuming your Assyrian/Chaldean Rita, if so then you could be Catholic, ro at least a Christian.
if you vote for democrats then you vote for the following,
1. Abortion
2. Encourage homosexual lifestyle
3. More taxes
4. Less freedom
5. Socialist government
you name it the liberal democrats believe in all that garbage. get a life and stop hating people who make this country work. you stupid airhead...
JerkFace
03-16-2009, 05:41 PM
Bass.......Rita is a Anti Christ
on the other hand you are the ignorant 1 obviously i dont think you even realize what your saying? & your thoughts are just shooting out from your ass like a rainbow in the sky
Mr. Brownstone
03-16-2009, 06:09 PM
i wouldn't say we have two distinct political parties but rather two shades of vanilla. Can anyone tell me the differences between the two?
Enrico
03-16-2009, 07:43 PM
I don't think you should compare politics to religion and God. I don't think politics are even moral, God didn't want anyone to rule others, or take away from others. God wanted peace for everyone. ;)
I agree. So why have them classified in the same forum??
SamIAM™
03-17-2009, 09:14 AM
Rita is obviously a stupid liberal Girl who don't know a thing. i was born in that hell hole you call Iraq, i am Chaldean and thank God for USA and thank God i raised all my kids 100% pure Americans. there is nothing i want to associate myself with Iraq, i saw nothing but hell from there. anyway, i am 100% with Armenian. the problem with people like Rita is, she is ignorant, she has no clue what she is saying. i am assuming your Assyrian/Chaldean Rita, if so then you could be Catholic, ro at least a Christian.
if you vote for democrats then you vote for the following,
1. Abortion
2. Encourage homosexual lifestyle
3. More taxes
4. Less freedom
5. Socialist government
you name it the liberal democrats believe in all that garbage. get a life and stop hating people who make this country work. you stupid airhead...
wtf is up with the name calling?
How you raise your kids is up to you. For MOST of us who are proud of our ancestors and cultures, we'd like to keep it going as long as we can. I'd hate to raise ignorant kids, especially about culture.
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I agree. So why have them classified in the same forum??
They do go hand and hand, that was post wasn't made by me, it was another mod that had left a while back.
Politics produces rules, religion produces rules. They both produce rules that we all know do not overlap by much.
AshurIG
03-17-2009, 10:46 AM
none of the above
my vote to Libertarian
http://www.lp.org
Enrico
03-17-2009, 11:20 AM
wtf is up with the name calling?
How you raise your kids is up to you. For MOST of us who are proud of our ancestors and cultures, we'd like to keep it going as long as we can. I'd hate to raise ignorant kids, especially about culture.
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They do go hand and hand, that was post wasn't made by me, it was another mod that had left a while back.
Politics produces rules, religion produces rules. They both produce rules that we all know do not overlap by much.
Another mod was using your user name?? Um...interesting. Anyway, I think most people realize that mixing religion and politics has a lot of consequences but it's your forum. I just always wondered why.
Caramel
03-17-2009, 12:14 PM
Libertarian.
AshurIG
03-17-2009, 10:45 PM
Libertarian.
awesome a fellow Libertarian :)
Caramel
03-19-2009, 08:04 AM
awesome a fellow Libertarian :)
It would be nice if there were more of us around! :D
liquor store
04-15-2009, 11:53 AM
i wouldn't say we have two distinct political parties but rather two shades of vanilla. Can anyone tell me the differences between the two?
If that's what you think, then you're seriously misinformed.
TRUTH, my friend
Republicans believe... Democrats believe... ...that the United States were founded on the fundamental principle that individuals have certain rights and freedoms which cannot be infringed upon and may be restricted only to the degree necessary to preserve the rights of others. ...that our Founding Fathers did not really mean what they said when they guaranteed certain constitutional rights such as the right to freedom of religious expression, the right to keep and bear arms, and the right to retain the use of private property. ...the money you earn is yours and that government in a free society has the right to take only as much as is needed to perform those limited functions, which are appropriate to it. ...government has a right to use your money as it sees fit to redistribute wealth, establish new spending programs in times of budget surpluses, and to return to you only that portion of your money which is politically expedient. ...the traditional family and the values it fosters are the foundation of American society and their preservation is essential to our Nation's continued success. ...American society must redefine its values and the role of the family to fit new lifestyle concepts, which have resulted from the 60ís counter-culture movement and an attitude that promotes an abrogation of individual responsibility. ...parents have the right to determine the values with which their children will be raised and to have the widest possible choice among public, private and religious schools and that competition will improve public education. ...the federal government has the right to determine the values which will be taught in public schools and parentsí choice of schools must be limited to avoid exposing public schools to competitive forces which would encourage reform and increase accountability. ...that the free enterprise system is the most effective engine of economic progress. ...that government regulation and federal control of economic activity can better distribute wealth and services to the American people. ...high taxes, runaway government spending, and over-regulation of business and farming punish initiative and stifle economic growth. ...penalizing achievement with higher taxes and increased government bureaucracy and spending will not stifle economic growth but instead guarantee prosperity for everyone. ...that with freedom comes responsibility and that individuals must take personal responsibility for their own actions and our criminal justice system must be based on this idea. ...individual behavior, including criminal behavior, can be blamed on "society" and that spending on social welfare programs and improvements in prison living conditions can combat crime. ...that your property is yours and you have the basic right to make use of it without unreasonable government restrictions. ...the government has the right to regulate the use of private property in accordance with narrow special interests without giving just compensation to owners. ...the preservation of our rights and freedoms must be entrusted to a strong national defense and of the ability of the United States to negotiate with other nations from a position of strength. ...we can afford to drastically weaken our military despite the threats present in an unstable, post-Cold War international environment and the United States must subjugate its interests to those of the United Nations. ...it is imperative today to re-affirm the traditional freedoms and values of America to preserve our great Republic. ...that America must adopt a politically correct, multi-cultural set of values which denies common American heritage and will further divide American society. ...there can be differences of opinion and that such differences such result in opponents, not enemies. ...that all whom oppose them are to be treated as enemies. ...that all of America's citizens can enjoy the rights and freedoms of our country without diminishing the rights of others. ...that some must give up a portion of their rights and freedoms that others may enjoy those same rights and freedoms. ...that public servants, particularly those whom we elect to office, must be held accountable to the highest standards of ethical conduct. "If a man cannot be trusted with the government of himself, can he be trusted with the government of others?" [Thomas Jefferson]
...that loyalty to a discredited leader is a virtue and if other office holders have committed indiscretions, a sitting office holder should not be criticized for failing to uphold the highest standards of ethical conduct.
John_5_24
04-15-2009, 12:06 PM
If that's what you think, then you're seriously misinformed.
TRUTH, my friend
Republicans believe... Democrats believe... ...that the United States were founded on the fundamental principle that individuals have certain rights and freedoms which cannot be infringed upon and may be restricted only to the degree necessary to preserve the rights of others. ...that our Founding Fathers did not really mean what they said when they guaranteed certain constitutional rights such as the right to freedom of religious expression, the right to keep and bear arms, and the right to retain the use of private property. ...the money you earn is yours and that government in a free society has the right to take only as much as is needed to perform those limited functions, which are appropriate to it. ...government has a right to use your money as it sees fit to redistribute wealth, establish new spending programs in times of budget surpluses, and to return to you only that portion of your money which is politically expedient. ...the traditional family and the values it fosters are the foundation of American society and their preservation is essential to our Nation's continued success. ...American society must redefine its values and the role of the family to fit new lifestyle concepts, which have resulted from the 60ís counter-culture movement and an attitude that promotes an abrogation of individual responsibility. ...parents have the right to determine the values with which their children will be raised and to have the widest possible choice among public, private and religious schools and that competition will improve public education. ...the federal government has the right to determine the values which will be taught in public schools and parentsí choice of schools must be limited to avoid exposing public schools to competitive forces which would encourage reform and increase accountability. ...that the free enterprise system is the most effective engine of economic progress. ...that government regulation and federal control of economic activity can better distribute wealth and services to the American people. ...high taxes, runaway government spending, and over-regulation of business and farming punish initiative and stifle economic growth. ...penalizing achievement with higher taxes and increased government bureaucracy and spending will not stifle economic growth but instead guarantee prosperity for everyone. ...that with freedom comes responsibility and that individuals must take personal responsibility for their own actions and our criminal justice system must be based on this idea. ...individual behavior, including criminal behavior, can be blamed on "society" and that spending on social welfare programs and improvements in prison living conditions can combat crime. ...that your property is yours and you have the basic right to make use of it without unreasonable government restrictions. ...the government has the right to regulate the use of private property in accordance with narrow special interests without giving just compensation to owners. ...the preservation of our rights and freedoms must be entrusted to a strong national defense and of the ability of the United States to negotiate with other nations from a position of strength. ...we can afford to drastically weaken our military despite the threats present in an unstable, post-Cold War international environment and the United States must subjugate its interests to those of the United Nations. ...it is imperative today to re-affirm the traditional freedoms and values of America to preserve our great Republic. ...that America must adopt a politically correct, multi-cultural set of values which denies common American heritage and will further divide American society. ...there can be differences of opinion and that such differences such result in opponents, not enemies. ...that all whom oppose them are to be treated as enemies. ...that all of America's citizens can enjoy the rights and freedoms of our country without diminishing the rights of others. ...that some must give up a portion of their rights and freedoms that others may enjoy those same rights and freedoms. ...that public servants, particularly those whom we elect to office, must be held accountable to the highest standards of ethical conduct. "If a man cannot be trusted with the government of himself, can he be trusted with the government of others?" [Thomas Jefferson]
...that loyalty to a discredited leader is a virtue and if other office holders have committed indiscretions, a sitting office holder should not be criticized for failing to uphold the highest standards of ethical conduct.
All great, but if you are suggesting that EITHER of the major parties actually support these principles with anything more than words then you are blind. The GOP is just as lost as the dems.
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It would be nice if there were more of us around! :DCount me in.
Mr. Brownstone
04-15-2009, 09:42 PM
If that's what you think, then you're seriously misinformed.
TRUTH, my friend
Republicans believe... Democrats believe... ...that the United States were founded on the fundamental principle that individuals have certain rights and freedoms which cannot be infringed upon and may be restricted only to the degree necessary to preserve the rights of others. ...that our Founding Fathers did not really mean what they said when they guaranteed certain constitutional rights such as the right to freedom of religious expression, the right to keep and bear arms, and the right to retain the use of private property. ...the money you earn is yours and that government in a free society has the right to take only as much as is needed to perform those limited functions, which are appropriate to it. ...government has a right to use your money as it sees fit to redistribute wealth, establish new spending programs in times of budget surpluses, and to return to you only that portion of your money which is politically expedient. ...the traditional family and the values it fosters are the foundation of American society and their preservation is essential to our Nation's continued success. ...American society must redefine its values and the role of the family to fit new lifestyle concepts, which have resulted from the 60ís counter-culture movement and an attitude that promotes an abrogation of individual responsibility. ...parents have the right to determine the values with which their children will be raised and to have the widest possible choice among public, private and religious schools and that competition will improve public education. ...the federal government has the right to determine the values which will be taught in public schools and parentsí choice of schools must be limited to avoid exposing public schools to competitive forces which would encourage reform and increase accountability. ...that the free enterprise system is the most effective engine of economic progress. ...that government regulation and federal control of economic activity can better distribute wealth and services to the American people. ...high taxes, runaway government spending, and over-regulation of business and farming punish initiative and stifle economic growth. ...penalizing achievement with higher taxes and increased government bureaucracy and spending will not stifle economic growth but instead guarantee prosperity for everyone. ...that with freedom comes responsibility and that individuals must take personal responsibility for their own actions and our criminal justice system must be based on this idea. ...individual behavior, including criminal behavior, can be blamed on "society" and that spending on social welfare programs and improvements in prison living conditions can combat crime. ...that your property is yours and you have the basic right to make use of it without unreasonable government restrictions. ...the government has the right to regulate the use of private property in accordance with narrow special interests without giving just compensation to owners. ...the preservation of our rights and freedoms must be entrusted to a strong national defense and of the ability of the United States to negotiate with other nations from a position of strength. ...we can afford to drastically weaken our military despite the threats present in an unstable, post-Cold War international environment and the United States must subjugate its interests to those of the United Nations. ...it is imperative today to re-affirm the traditional freedoms and values of America to preserve our great Republic. ...that America must adopt a politically correct, multi-cultural set of values which denies common American heritage and will further divide American society. ...there can be differences of opinion and that such differences such result in opponents, not enemies. ...that all whom oppose them are to be treated as enemies. ...that all of America's citizens can enjoy the rights and freedoms of our country without diminishing the rights of others. ...that some must give up a portion of their rights and freedoms that others may enjoy those same rights and freedoms. ...that public servants, particularly those whom we elect to office, must be held accountable to the highest standards of ethical conduct. "If a man cannot be trusted with the government of himself, can he be trusted with the government of others?" [Thomas Jefferson]
...that loyalty to a discredited leader is a virtue and if other office holders have committed indiscretions, a sitting office holder should not be criticized for failing to uphold the highest standards of ethical conduct.
learn to use paragraphs. and u didn't address my question.
How about a relibracrat?
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I just realized something, the poll says "republican", "democrat", and "liberal". I don't think "liberal" is a party. Did you mean libertarian?
f013264
07-24-2009, 08:08 PM
Rita and all that agree with her are are liberals who are the reason for the moral decay of our nation. I fully agree with Armenian. Oh yeah please don't mix jesus with religion.
Enrico
07-25-2009, 03:31 AM
Rita and all that agree with her are are liberals who are the reason for the moral decay of our nation.
Yeah I'm sure they are the only reason why there are any problems.
Seriously, what a stupid thing to say.
Oh yeah please don't mix jesus with religion.
Even more stupid thing to say. Don't associate Jesus with religion? Um...... care to explain yourself?
SarahPesto
07-25-2009, 03:47 AM
I'm an independent.
Sadeer
01-17-2010, 03:51 PM
Consequently he is able for all time to save those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them.
Hebrews 7: 25
Disclaimer: I am not a theologian and I make mistakes from time to time.
January 22 is the Anniversary of Roe v. Wade. It’s hard to believe that abortions are legal and they exist. We almost all know of people who commit or support abortions. Some support abortions by actually getting an abortion and some support abortions by voting for pro-choice candidates. It’s easy for us to hate people who support abortions, but we should resist the urge to hate. We should love the person, but hate the evil of abortion. If you are like me, you probably get really heated when debating someone on abortion because you very well know that abortion is MURDER! I am not sure what the best way is for dealing with people who support a women’s right to choice death for her child, but one thing we can do as Christians is pray. We should pray for the child left out to die, the women who got or is debating on getting an abortion, and we should also pray for the people who support abortions by their vote. Always remembering that ”Consequently he is able for all time to save those who draw near to God through him, since he always lives to make intercession for them. “ Hebrews 7: 25
During the presidential campaign I wrote a little piece on abortions (with the help of one of my friends), here is the part that I want to share with you:
There is little debate anymore whether the life in a mother’s womb is a baby. Medical science has revealed that life begins at conception. It is at conception that a unique combination of chromosomes define you as a person, it is at that moment your blueprint is created. At the time of conception a person has his own unqiue DNA. Your DNA will determine whether you will have blue eyes or brown eyes, whether you will be tall or short, whether you will have dark or light skin, your DNA will even determine your health. From conception on your body grows and develops, but nothing new is added to your blueprint except for oxygen, fluids, and food. Before conception that blue print that defines you did not exist, after conception it did. Advancement in medical science, the ultrasound and genetic engineering has affirmed all this. Many people already understand that abortions kills humans beings, but are still voting for pro choice aka pro-abortion candidates because they figure that their are greater evils that need our immediate attention. Such evils as war, homicides, inadequate health care, and etc.
Looking at this in a pure numerical standpoint there are over a million surgical abortions preformed by abortions in a year by contrast there was 42 deaths caused by the death penalty last year, there about 17,000 homicides every year, premature deaths due to inadequate health care are estimated to be around 34,000 thousand deaths a year, and the iraq war has claimed the total of roughly 55 thousand iraqi and american lives over the past several years, even the people who come up with the number that the total death count of the war when you factor in diseases and displacements, etc exceeds 500,000….. that is still over 5 years, and as tragic as it is if it is true it is still less than 10% of the annual death total of abortions. All the other issues added together does not add up to the importance of the issue of abortion.
We have all made mistakes. I even voted for pro-choice candidates a long time ago because I looked at different issues and refused to focus and weigh in the most important issue of abortion. But I realized I was wrong and I confessed my sins. And I made many efforts to correct my mistakes by letting many people know of my stance on LIFE (that I am PRO-LIFE), especially during this past election. If you have also made a mistake in the past don’t hesitate to ask for God’s mercy because ”the Lord is compassionate and merciful.” James 5:11
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