TV preacher calls on US to murder Venezuelan president

[Samuel]

How retarded can you Christians be? *This retarded...


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-082305robertson_lat,0,2075668.story?coll=la-home-headlines

WASHINGTON -- Televangelist Pat Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez provoked a storm of criticism today, triggering condemnation from his fellow religious leaders and international outrage, while the Bush administration said he was a "private citizen" whose remarks were "inappropriate."

Robertson remained publicly silent during the furor, in which he was criticized across the political spectrum in the United States by former Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole as well as several liberal Democratic members of Congress and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

The head of the National Assn. of Evangelicals said Robertson was endangering the lives of Christians in Venezuela.

Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition of America, was a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 1988. His conservative Christian fans tune in to his 700 Club television show daily.

On Monday's program, Robertson said that the Venezuelan leader would make his nation "a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent."

Killing Chavez, an ally of Cuban leader Fidel Castro, would be "a whole lot cheaper than starting a war," Robertson said.

In Venezuela, Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel said today that Robertson's remarks were "terrorist statements." He condemned them as incitement to commit murder, and called on U.S. officials to make clear that the law applies "even to such Christians."

Speaking at a news conference in Caracas, Rangel said, "The ball is in the U.S. court after this criminal statement by a citizen of that country. It's a huge hypocrisy to maintain this discourse against terrorism and at the same time, in the heart of that country, there are entirely terrorist statements like those."

Robertson's remarks caught the deep tensions that have existed between the Chavez and Bush administrations, as Chavez seeks to maintain his political foundation with open hostility toward the United States. The U.S. government, wary of Chavez, nevertheless looks to Venezuela as a reliable supplier of oil.

The scope of Robertson's influence drew considerable debate. His syndicated television program, which had only recently been described as reaching an audience of at least a million, has drawn an average audience of 863,000 a day during the 2004-2005 television season, according to Nielsen Media Research.

His political reach was at an apex in the 1988 presidential campaign.

However, a leading national evangelical figure said Robertson's influence among evangelicals in the United States had ebbed.

"He's an old man and there's a group of old women and old men who watch him," said this leader, who asked to remain anonymous because he said he respected Robertson's past ministry and also did not want to alienate Robertson's followers. "The spokespeople for evangelicalism are significantly distanced from him politically and spiritually. The Moral Majority days are long gone. It's a different world."

Robertson's office did not respond to a telephone call and e-mail message seeking comment.

[Armenian]

Those damn Christians.

[renee]

Pat Robertson should be sent to Guantanimo (sic) Bay.

[Senalko]

Samd, if i was to use the Same ideology that you have used in this Thread, then i am Proud to say that YOU Athiests have meaninggless lives.....


YOUR labelling of Christians as Retarded is Pathetic, and if u think you have got some Athiest's friends who can join you in putting our religion down, then think Twice next time your going to post something imature like that....


One Christian leader doesnt make all the same.... NO one is perfect... the Fact that this preacher has called upon the killing of another human being on purpose goes agianst the teaching of GOD wether u were a christian or muslem... The Article itself mentioned his Fellow preachers Condemnded him for his actions......

[proudchaldean]

lol...SamD is NOT A MUSLIM!!!!

[caz]

lmao noo hes not lool *:mrgreen: *hes just a punk *:alright:

[Samuel]

lol...SamD is NOT A MUSLIM!!!!


haha.. Proud...are you still proud of your people? * ;)

We're such a special-ed race.

[Senalko]

lol...SamD is NOT A MUSLIM!!!!


Thats pretty much the Slogan of this Web Site.... We hear it, we read it so many times, but it just doesnt *Get through looooooool

[ojeen1981]

that guy is a clown, biggest clown ever, but i challange anyone in here to go back to the Bible and give me something that Jesus said that would aprove of what this loser is saying.

its so easy to point the finger and use deragatory terms against christains, but whats ignorant is their is no backing to that saying at all, just like what this clown pat robertson is, a clown saying crap with no backing to it...

[Randel]

You guys gotta admit, that does make you look preety retarted. after all it did say that over 800,000 people watch his show a day.

btw senalko im an atheist and I definitely dont live a meaningless life. I dont need to make some strange chants at night for my life to have meaning.

[ojeen1981]

randel, whats up man...if u dont mind..is it okay if i ask u some questions..perhaps challange u philosophically, becuase i would like to know your answers to some questions which i had difficulty in while i was an aethist...let me know if its kool with u

[Randel]

randel, whats up man...if u dont mind..is it okay if i ask u some questions..perhaps challange u philosophically, becuase i would like to know your answers to some questions which i had difficulty in while i was an aethist...let me know if its kool with u

i dont care

[sammiedebull]

Pat Robertson should be sent to Guantanimo (sic) Bay.

I agree, this guy is a clown, i mean come on!!!

[Samuel]

its so easy to point the finger and use deragatory terms against christains, but whats ignorant is their is no backing to that saying at all, just like what this clown pat robertson is, a clown saying crap with no backing to it...

Who is pointing fingers without proof? *I made a statement, which asked what level of "retardness" can a Christian, like yourself or any other, achieve. *Then "backed" it with an example. *If you can't even understand simple English, then how compelling is your support for all impressive things "you read"?

[CHALDEANELVIS]

Why should one mans voice speak for millions? What if I said "I dont eat tomatoes" should we say that all Christians don't eat tomatoes? Or that they shouldn't?

The Bible speaks contrary to this man's opinon and God will deal with him. But doesn't America have a death penatly? If an American orders a man to be sent to death row, does that mean that all Americans are retarded and guilty of his death?

Can you show me in the Bible where this man would stand correct Biblically?

I can't help but notice the way of atheism is unloving and without answers. Ever wonder why atheist taste a bit of science and turn atheist, but when they eat more and more, they leave atheism? This of course does not apply to all but how many atheist have searched daily to find out if in fact they are true? Why don't you go back to my questions I have for atheist that can be found on the "did people create God...." topic.

I don't expect any real answers, if answers at all. But lets pretend you are wrong. How will you ever know? Can you confirm this opinion to be an absolute? I study Christianity daily, everyday, to confirm it's validity. That's why I am always answering objections posted on here. I try not to leave out even one. So why don't you step up and confirm atheism by answering those questions I posted.

And please, dont respond with cuss words or ad hominem attacks. I'm not here to attack you sam, I'm here to find truth just like you are.

God Bless,
Elvis

[sammiedebull]

hes just pointing at this clown, not anyone else.

[caz]

hes just pointing at this clown, not anyone else.

thank u sammie but yet ppl jump at ur throat even when ur tryin to voice ur own opinion wats up with that *:bang:

[Armenian]

hes just pointing at this clown, not anyone else.

maybe it was his own words in bold. *You think?

[caz]

hes just pointing at this clown, not anyone else.

maybe it was his own words in bold. *You think?

ok now i see it *:no no:

i dont agree ok, well its samd for u wat do u expect hes a rude punk *:love: *ill show him whos retarded *:think:

[Samuel]

Why should one mans voice speak for millions? What if I said "I dont eat tomatoes" should we say that all Christians don't eat tomatoes? Or that they shouldn't?

The Bible speaks contrary to this man's opinon and God will deal with him. But doesn't America have a death penatly? If an American orders a man to be sent to death row, does that mean that all Americans are retarded and guilty of his death?

Can you show me in the Bible where this man would stand correct Biblically?

I can't help but notice the way of atheism is unloving and without answers. Ever wonder why atheist taste a bit of science and turn atheist, but when they eat more and more, they leave atheism? This of course does not apply to all but how many atheist have searched daily to find out if in fact they are true? Why don't you go back to my questions I have for atheist that can be found on the "did people create God...." topic.

I don't expect any real answers, if answers at all. But lets pretend you are wrong. How will you ever know? Can you confirm this opinion to be an absolute? I study Christianity daily, everyday, to confirm it's validity. That's why I am always answering objections posted on here. I try not to leave out even one. So why don't you step up and confirm atheism by answering those questions I posted.

And please, dont respond with cuss words or ad hominem attacks. I'm not here to attack you sam, I'm here to find truth just like you are.

God Bless,
Elvis


blah blah blah...blah de-dee-da-da. *Mathew Mark Luke and John...and some more blah blah blah. *


....do you honestly think i'm ever going to bother reading another one of your posts?

[John_5_24]

Gen 9:6 *"Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image. "

[CHALDEANELVIS]

Complete chaos when I'm not present for a few days. I only wish I could've responded to the "jihads using internet" forum.

Umi quoted Luke 19 and I already explained to him that Christ was speaking in a parable. No where in the entire New Testatment do you ever see Christ teaching murder. No where. I challenge you to find it.

I've already made my case for Muhammed ordering the deaths of whosoever does not follow him. Then Umi quoted some unknown source OUTSIDE of the Kuran to substantiate his claim. Let's try to quote the Kuran Umi.

I can't exactly answer to all of the ridiculous claims and comments because they are not present before me.

And Sammie, are you still saying that "everyone should follow their own religion and everything will be ok?" Then you must also be saying "God is playing musical chairs in Heaven and everytime someone says "Allah!" God sits down, "Krishna!" God sits down, "Dali lama!" God sits down, "Buddh!" God sits down, "Jesus!" God sits down.

Can God really give salvation to religions that all teach contrary to one another? How many religions have a savior that claimed to have died for the sins of the whole world? How many religions have a leader that claimed to be God Himself? Why does Jesus say there is salvation in nobody but Him, the same guy that claimed to be GOD? Do all religions lead to Heaven....

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"

Why would Jesus make such a claim? NOBODY *is getting to God the Father unless they go through Christ? Thats extreme!!

Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved"

Jesus, are you telling us there is salvation in NO OTHER NAME but you? Thats too extreme man! Nobody is getting saved but through Jesus?

Sammie, they must've thought Jesus was an extremist as well for making such claims.

So it's most fitting to say:

John 15:18 - "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. "

They definetly must've called Jesus an extremist.

[UmiSayz]

Complete chaos when I'm not present for a few days. I only wish I could've responded to the "jihads using internet" forum.

Umi quoted Luke 19 and I already explained to him that Christ was speaking in a parable. No where in the entire New Testatment do you ever see Christ teaching murder. No where. I challenge you to find it.

I've already made my case for Muhammed ordering the deaths of whosoever does not follow him. Then Umi quoted some unknown source OUTSIDE of the Kuran to substantiate his claim. Let's try to quote the Kuran Umi.

I can't exactly answer to all of the ridiculous claims and comments because they are not present before me.

And Sammie, are you still saying that "everyone should follow their own religion and everything will be ok?" Then you must also be saying "God is playing musical chairs in Heaven and everytime someone says "Allah!" God sits down, "Krishna!" God sits down, "Dali lama!" God sits down, "Buddh!" God sits down, "Jesus!" God sits down.

Can God really give salvation to religions that all teach contrary to one another? How many religions have a savior that claimed to have died for the sins of the whole world? How many religions have a leader that claimed to be God Himself? Why does Jesus say there is salvation in nobody but Him, the same guy that claimed to be GOD? Do all religions lead to Heaven....

John 14:6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me"

Why would Jesus make such a claim? NOBODY *is getting to God the Father unless they go through Christ? Thats extreme!!

Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved"

Jesus, are you telling us there is salvation in NO OTHER NAME but you? Thats too extreme man! Nobody is getting saved but through Jesus?

Sammie, they must've thought Jesus was an extremist as well for making such claims.

So it's most fitting to say:

John 15:18 - "If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. "

They definetly must've called Jesus an extremist.





What a joke. I hope you choke on your bullshit.

[CHALDEANELVIS]

The Bible forbids I speak like that.

A joke? Why don't you "skool" me Umi?

[sammiedebull]

everyone believes in thier own way, keep it at that.

[ojeen1981]

samd, i dont know why u took personal my last post? is it becuase u are retarded? or is it becuase u feel Compelled to attack me? either way, understand my points and try to expand your horizon beyond just simply insulting people. *

umisays, what is a joke? Bibilical passages?

[John_5_24]

What the heck happened in this thread??? *Did a bomb go off or what? *You guys need to relax a bit.

[CHALDEANELVIS]

John, I missed you man!! *:love: