confusion regarding birth control

[chaldeanjk]

Hi Everyone,

I am a little confused today. I am well aware of the church view on pre-marital sex. However, I was really not that clear on whether or not it is a separate and additional sin to use birth control. Someone recently advised me that it is a sin for even a married couple to use birth control. Really??????...... I asked my grandpa and he said it is even a sin to pull out!! G wiz, I don't know what to do anymore. I am going to text Kasha Jimmy for guidance, in the meantime I would appreciate any comments or advice on what I should do in lieu of birth control or what birth control I can use that might be ok per the various religious authoritys. Let me know by tonight everyone.

[UberAnt]

I would tell you what I think, but I don't think you'd like it so I'm gonna keep quiet.

one word of advice though.. it's your life.. not theirs or ours.

[chaldeanjk]

Originally Posted by AntiDoll

I would tell you what I think, but I don't think you'd like it so I'm gonna keep quiet.

one word of advice though.. it's your life.. not theirs or ours.

No, you are wrong, whether or not I like it, I would like to hear. Please. Some insight, even insight I dont agree with is better than none. Help me out.

[UberAnt]

I don't think birth control is or "pulling out" is a sin...

maybe if you are a hardcore Christian.. but if you are then you would not even agree of masturbation and you'd think the "wasted semen" is "potential kids" that you just killed.

but in reality, that is not true. a "semen" is not even close to being a human. Birth control (I think) somehow does not let the egg and the semen unite to create a human... it's like using a condom (to prevent something before it happens)

so I'm not sure why that's a bad thing... However I am sure that most Christians are not okay with abortion or the morning-after pill...

but if you don't want to use birth control then you either decide you want to become a daddy or you don't have sex or masturbate for the rest of your life lol

[Black_widow]

Chaldeanjk do whatever your heart tells you to do. If you feel like doing it do it. If you don't feel like it - don't do it. Your grandfather belongs to another generation. What he believes is best for him. Listen to every possible opinion and then decide what you want to do for urself.

The Pope recently admitted that the earth is a sphere. 100 years ago it was a planar. May be in 500 years the Pope will say that premarital sex is ok. May be he won't say it.

[Mr. Brownstone]

Ill call kasha jimmy and let you know asap

[chaldeanjk]

Originally Posted by Mr. Brownstone

Ill call kasha jimmy and let you know asap

Thats ok, I will text kasha jimmy myself, i dont want to bug him with a phone call. He is a busy guy helping everyone, god bless him so much he is a delight and blessing to us all.

[Jai-Eff]

that is a tough one I would wait for Kasha Jimmy's take on this. I know some people resort to Greek style sex so as to avoid sin.

[Trevor]

Do what you need to do and that's it.

[chaldeanjk]

I would like to thank everyone for all their input on this one. I ended up going for it with the use of birth control. However, any further insight would continue to be helpful, so let me know. Gee wiz, i sure do appreciate it and stuff

[Zraff]

Its not a sin if you use latex balloons.

[JEH]

Originally Posted by chaldeanjk

I would like to thank everyone for all their input on this one. I ended up going for it with the use of birth control. However, any further insight would continue to be helpful, so let me know. Gee wiz, i sure do appreciate it and stuff

so who took the birth control ..you or her or "him" lol hmm

[Emma_Girl]

Originally Posted by Zraff

Its not a sin if you use latex balloons.

lol you know zraff, a lot of people are allergic to latex.

[SamIAM™]

According to the church, you have sex to procreate, not for anything else.

[LeeDeeYaa]

Originally Posted by chaldeanjk

I would like to thank everyone for all their input on this one. I ended up going for it with the use of birth control. However, any further insight would continue to be helpful, so let me know. Gee wiz, i sure do appreciate it and stuff

Umm...I don't understand this....why are you so worried about birth control being a sin when you obviously don't care that sex is a sin? Just seemed like a pointless thread.

[UberAnt]

Originally Posted by LeeDeeYaa

Umm...I don't understand this....why are you so worried about birth control being a sin when you obviously don't care that sex is a sin? Just seemed like a pointless thread.

oh yeaaah! I didn't even think about that one ! haha..

[JEH]

Originally Posted by AntiDoll

oh yeaaah! I didn't even think about that one ! haha..

I WAS going to say it from the first post but didn't want to bother with him ..CHURCH DONT BELIEVE sex before marriage ..so does kasha jimmy knows that he is having sex before marriage when he text him ..i wonder plus the girl should care about the birth control not him ..

Originally Posted by chaldeanjk

Hi Everyone,

I am a little confused today. I am well aware of the church view on pre-marital sex. However, I was really not that clear on whether or not it is a separate and additional sin to use birth control. Someone recently advised me that it is a sin for even a married couple to use birth control. Really??????...... I asked my grandpa and he said it is even a sin to pull out!! G wiz, I don't know what to do anymore. I am going to text Kasha Jimmy for guidance, in the meantime I would appreciate any comments or advice on what I should do in lieu of birth control or what birth control I can use that might be ok per the various religious authoritys. Let me know by tonight everyone.

the people you ask about sex are not having sex for you...spreading your legs is your own personal choice & the consequences are yours also......askin for advice on birth control or morning after pills etc....is a waste of time....if you NEED to ask & are not educated enough in sex & all of the glorious things that follow through with it (responsibilities) then DONT HAVE SEX until you know everything there is you need to know..without having to ask.

[UberAnt]

^^ I think he needs the "religious" point of view on the subject.. rather than information on birth control etc..

no Anti i dont need the religious view...i already am aware of it...but giving my own advice & view on this matter rather than the churches.

[SarahPesto]

Originally Posted by chaldeanjk

Hi Everyone,

I am a little confused today. I am well aware of the church view on pre-marital sex. However, I was really not that clear on whether or not it is a separate and additional sin to use birth control. Someone recently advised me that it is a sin for even a married couple to use birth control. Really??????...... I asked my grandpa and he said it is even a sin to pull out!! G wiz, I don't know what to do anymore. I am going to text Kasha Jimmy for guidance, in the meantime I would appreciate any comments or advice on what I should do in lieu of birth control or what birth control I can use that might be ok per the various religious authoritys. Let me know by tonight everyone.

There is a practice called the rhythm method. Basically, you wait to have sex with the woman just before she is going to have her period. In that stage she is not as fertile. If you want to have a baby, you want to wait until after the period when the woman is most fertile, she's also more sexual at that time as hormones are being released.
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Originally Posted by SamIAM™

According to the church, you have sex to procreate, not for anything else.

69 is off limits too! hehe!!!
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Originally Posted by LeeDeeYaa

Umm...I don't understand this....why are you so worried about birth control being a sin when you obviously don't care that sex is a sin? Just seemed like a pointless thread.

Sex isn't a sin. Lust is a sin. If two people love and care for one another, there is nothing wrong with it. If there was no sex, the human race would end.
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Originally Posted by JERKface

the people you ask about sex are not having sex for you...spreading your legs is your own personal choice & the consequences are yours also......askin for advice on birth control or morning after pills etc....is a waste of time....if you NEED to ask & are not educated enough in sex & all of the glorious things that follow through with it (responsibilities) then DONT HAVE SEX until you know everything there is you need to know..without having to ask.

Yeah. If you don't know what you are doing, you shouldn't do it. An example, someone trying to ride a motorcycle for the first time. They are like "I can do it I can do it", and they end up crashing.

[LeeDeeYaa]

you know what i meant sarah...sex before marriage....anyhow, that wasn't the point....the point was that this thread is useless...why should he be worried about birth control being a sin if he doesn't care that sex before marriage is a sin?

[AshurIG]

Originally Posted by LeeDeeYaa

you know what i meant sarah...sex before marriage....anyhow, that wasn't the point....the point was that this thread is useless...why should he be worried about birth control being a sin if he doesn't care that sex before marriage is a sin?

correct

[JEH]

Originally Posted by LeeDeeYaa

you know what i meant sarah...sex before marriage....anyhow, that wasn't the point....the point was that this thread is useless...why should he be worried about birth control being a sin if he doesn't care that sex before marriage is a sin?

excatily and i want to know how the priest allow them to do that ..thats what i am wondering ..plus the birth control is a girl problem what's his problem here ..he is having the sex either use condums or if the girl on birth control ..just this thread is pointless but it's all good ..like i said they are fun to be here

[rudy]

Originally Posted by chaldeanjk

Hi Everyone,

Hi

I asked my grandpa and he said it is even a sin to pull out!!

Got to love the wisdom of Jidu! You must be really close with Jidu. If I had that conversation with my Jidu he would of probably hit me with his sib-ha.

G wiz, I don't know what to do anymore.

You can thank Jidu for that.

I am going to text Kasha Jimmy for guidance,

I don't know if you should mention your conversation with Jidu to Kasha Jimmy.
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Originally Posted by AntiDoll

one word of advice though.. it's your life.. not theirs or ours.

You are the epitome of modern mans humanistic thought process. this is exactly what a generation of no fix values is built upon, ME ME and yes it's about ME.

I would encourage you AntiDoll to read Dr. Francis Schaeffer definition of "personal peace" and how it dames society.